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  • #91
    Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
    You need to not touch cyclic while it is on the ground otherwise the gyro will not arm properly. Just pop it straight up in the air. Dont try and spool it up slowly. It will cause problems
    sounds right to me

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    • #92
      Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
      Are you popping it up straight into a hover? You have to do that. Just open the throttle up nice and qucik and it will go into a hover. But tbh i think you have bitten off more than you can chew at this stage by the sounds of it

      Arhhh ok I will try that tomorrow, Yeah iv flown the toy heli's but thought I would up my game.

      Harder than I thought.

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      • #93
        If your looking to choose between the 130 and the nano then go for the 130x...the nano is not good in the wind and its always bloody windy these days.

        I don't think my nano will get much use till 8th of Oct when our next indoor meet will be,can't wait lol...ok i can
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Curryzz View Post
          Hi guys, I'm new to this, I have been trying to get the heli set up nice, it seems I'm am struggling to keep the tail down, the nose just faces straight into the ground, what shall I adjust to help this? I have a dx8

          cheers
          If this is your first heli, I would suggest you get somebody to take a look.

          First off, the micro helis (eg. nano cpx, mcpx, 130x etc.) should pretty much be setup "out of the box". On the assumption that you have setup your dx8 correctly, your behaviour sounds to me like you haven't let the flybarless unit initialise properly.

          When you plug the battery into the heli - do you keep the heli upright and still until you see the main blades move up/down?

          If you plug the battery in holding the heli upside down/on its side/anything put perfectly upright - this kind of behaviour will happen.

          HTH. Tom.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Curryzz View Post
            Arhhh ok I will try that tomorrow, Yeah iv flown the toy heli's but thought I would up my game.

            Harder than I thought.

            Paul
            Yes, its a different ball game all together. Just be confident when you open the throttle. But....... i would also suggest you drop your dual rates to about 60 or 65 and turn the expo up to about 40 on elevator and aileron. This will make it a lot more controllable

            Im not trying to be funny.... but if you have this heli set to the manual settings you dont stand a chance as a new pilot. It will get away from you faster than you can think what to do. You NEED to numb it down a bit. You will make much more progress that way at this stage. If any of this sounds confusing just say and i will go into more detail or talk you through it
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            • #96
              Am tempted despite coming to hate my old MCPX in the end

              Checking out the specification it states "bind to a DSMX transmitter". Is this really the case as I use a DX7?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Curryzz View Post
                Arhhh ok I will try that tomorrow, Yeah iv flown the toy heli's but thought I would up my game.

                Harder than I thought.

                Paul
                Not being funny, but if the heli has a fault, or you haven't plugged the battery in with the heli flat, then "popping" it up quickly will result in a heli flying headlong towards the wall (or you!). Spool it up *carefully*, keep you hands off the cyclics and try to see if it raises up an inch or two off the floor.

                Use a carpeted floor - not something slippy. Once in the air - you will need to apply a VERY MINOR amount of right cyclic to stop the heli naturally drifting left.

                The heli *should not* have a nose-down tendency from take off, unless (have I mentioned this yet?) you haven't plugged in the battery with the heli upright!
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                • #98
                  Tom... im not being funny... but this is his first heli. The chances that HE is doing something wrong is highly likely and im sure he would admit to that himself. Of course there could be a fault. But tbh... i highly doubt it in this scenario. Love how you put popping in in speech marks like its some alien phrase or something... lol. Its the way to take these little buggers off. Would you prefer if i said " lift off"?
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Curryzz View Post
                    Yeah haha,

                    I thought id at least be able to hover it after a day of practicing, Harder than it looks eh

                    I put all the settings in but still seems to want to nose itself into the floor..

                    Paul
                    Well in that case you have 3 servos. 2 x cyclic (leaning left and right) and 1 x elevator servo at the rear (forward & backward) Check the elevator servo is actually connected properly, does it work with throttle hold on, on the ground? Does any of what I just said make any sense?
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                    • Originally posted by davew View Post
                      Am tempted despite coming to hate my old MCPX in the end

                      Checking out the specification it states "bind to a DSMX transmitter". Is this really the case as I use a DX7?

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                      • ". Spool it up *carefully*, keep you hands off the cyclics and try to see if it raises up an inch or two off the floor."

                        DONT spool it up carefully at all!!!!!!!! That will confuse the gyro. POP IT UP INTO THE AIR. You are gonna make life more difficult for him with advise like that..... sorry but its true
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                        • Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
                          Tom... im not being funny... but this is his first heli. The chances that HE is doing something wrong is highly likely and im sure he would admit to that himself. Of course there could be a fault. But tbh... i highly doubt it in this scenario. Love how you put popping in in speech marks like its some alien phrase or something... lol. Its the way to take these little buggers off. Would you prefer if i said " lift off"?
                          Yep, I agree and really doubt there's any fault with the heli - more likely a TX mistake or something else. It's difficult to put over feeling on a forum, but i put the word "popping" (sorry, must be a habit )in quotes because I imagined something very different from popping to happen! I had visions of him giving it some welly, then rather than a controlled popping it into the air, he'd have a spinning rocket shooting off into the distance! (or a wall!)

                          Starting on your own ain't easy! - I did it with a 120SR and that was hard enough from no knowledge at all. Starting with a CP is a real challenge - a local friend is the best answer I guess ...
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                          • Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
                            ". Spool it up *carefully*, keep you hands off the cyclics and try to see if it raises up an inch or two off the floor."

                            DONT spool it up carefully at all!!!!!!!! That will confuse the gyro. POP IT UP INTO THE AIR. You are gonna make life more difficult for him with advise like that..... sorry but its true
                            Just to clarify my statement. If there is any kind of issue (be it a TX misconfiguration, or gyro's not initialised) then popping it up into the air might not be that easy! I hear what you're saying and I know that ground effect will make it harder very near the ground.

                            But ...

                            I was just a bit concerned by the repeated symptom he was giving of struggling to keep the nose up! Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it would be good to rule out any issue or config mistake ...
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                            • Hi Guys

                              Just to confirm I am a beginner and I'm really not confident In flying correctly, iv double checked all the settings are fine, iv adjusted it down to calm it down also.

                              I tired just popping it I'm the air and failed

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                              • Originally posted by Curryzz View Post
                                Hi Guys

                                Just to confirm I am a beginner and I'm really not confident In flying correctly, iv double checked all the settings are fine, iv adjusted it down to calm it down also.

                                I tired just popping it I'm the air and failed

                                Paul
                                Paul. That's not good :-(. Best advice I can give is to find some hands on help, or take a look at the flying lessons on John salts website (RC Helicopters, The Most Fun And Rewarding Of All RC Hobbies.). Are you comfortable with what all the controls do? Sorry if this sounds like a basic question but I've known a friend in the past (well, brother in law) that tried to learn to fly a heli with no concept of cyclic versus rudder for example ... He used to pop it in the air then kept moving the sticks trying to work out what each one did!

                                If you're happy with mode 2 controls (collective/rudder on left, cyclic on right) then a hands on friend, or lessons is likely to be your best chance of learning quickly.
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