Phoenix V2 beta

[Ashley Davis]

I just did a check over of the new beta which will be up on the site shortly. I was only checking the flight model is correct for the guys at Phoenix. It's now pretty much back to how it was in 1.05J. Cyclics are still a little sharper and the tail was a little too sensitive which hopefully they will correct before it goes up live for download.

[HiltonSteve]

Just been trying it online, one or two bugs me thinks!!

Very laggy (approx 4 FPS) even if you start a session with no one flying, the more people that join then the worse it gets.

Turned down all the graphical options but made no difference, runs very smoothly in single player though with everything turned up.

It has now locked up in multiplayer to the point were i need to reboot to get rid of it, can't close it even using the task manager.

Not too bad for a first attempt but i think it needs a bit more work here and there!!!

[HiltonSteve]

I saw some of the earlier posts about motion sickness and thought what a load of bo!!ocks but I have just spent 20 mins flying around stone henge with a t-rex 500 and i have to agree, i don't know exactly why but i do feel a bit sick!


I don't think i will be using this much more until either they sort it out or I re-install 1.5

[Ashley Davis]

the model physics haven't been changed at all from 1.05J on the heli's, all that happened was some unwanted bugs made their way in on the back of the updates to other areas, they have now been isolated and taken out. So the new beta will be back to business as usual.

[electricsceadu]

with the v2 on mine with vista
i tried to make some changes to the sceadu and it locked up and had to close the sim down
i restarted the sim tried the t rex 700 and got the full throttle right/left bank and loop then the sim crashed and i've had to uninstall it as it no longer works
i'm going back to 1.5
i hope they get it right

[heliTV]

the model physics haven't been changed at all from 1.05J on the heli's, all that happened was some unwanted bugs made their way in on the back of the updates to other areas, they have now been isolated and taken out. So the new beta will be back to business as usual.

Thanks Ashley
As a newbie, I thought I'd lost the (very) few skills that I've got. Couldn't stop crashing on Beta A - Beta B much better - I now only crash every few flights now (which is back to normal for me!!!)

[jboweruk]

I can't get it to run at all under Vista Home Premium....

It keeps going through setting up the tx, then asks if I want to d/l content, while it's doing that it stops, just stops, and goes black and stops responding.

If I tell it not to download content it does the same when I go to choose anything.

[HiltonSteve]

Beta A runs ok on vista ultimate 32 bit, just the issues as previously mentioned, not tried beta B yet.

Just one thought about the view / motion sickness problem... when i landed in front of Stone Henge (near) the stones on the right and left appeared to bend severley inwards like you are looking through a goldfish bowl, was this the same on 1.05 as i seem to remember it being much 'flatter'.

[heliTV]

I can't get it to run at all under Vista Home Premium....

It keeps going through setting up the tx, then asks if I want to d/l content, while it's doing that it stops, just stops, and goes black and stops responding.

If I tell it not to download content it does the same when I go to choose anything.

Hi John
I've got it working fine on XP on a desktop and Vista Home Premium on a laptop with y CX2 Tx. Have you tried your CX2 Tx in case its an issue with the DX6i??

ATB

Graham

[barney]

Just giving 2.0b a run...much better from 2.0a. def going the right way chaps

Motion Sickness is gone.. That side I'm quite happy with now (never did like Autozoom on Sims.. be better if it was defaulted to the off position IMHO)

The 700 is pretty decent compared to V2.0a. It sits in funnels nicely like it should.

Overall gravitionial pull is too soft.

The Sim speed itself seems a little Slow. Cant find a speed/slider to up it a bit. Is it still in there? The speed option helps compensate for the above.

Climb outs/ decents are just too perfect..very Sim like. Straight up and down. Stops on the pitch and cyclic are a little soft like your running expo. Again sim speed would help it feel sharper

On lakeside when I dunk the model into the water the models reflection is still showing on the surface after it has drowned.

Sound..Blade rasp comes in to early when flying the 700 around on my PC

I wonder if the Online is Pishcali proof but that will have to wait till tonight



PS...Meant to add it picked up my DX7 correctly this time round.

Also I lost my Custom airfield on the change over from 1.05 to V2.0?

Crack flying still pretty much non existant

Phoenix guys

[chemicalbro]

for anybody that wants to install the beta and keep the 1.05j install, heres how you do it.
if you try to do a 2nd install from cd it tells you that phoenix is already installed.
so make a new folder called phoenixbeta (or whatever) then open the folder containing the original install.
select all files and folders from the original install. and copy them .
open the phoenixbeta folder and paste the contents from the original install.

now when you go to install the beta update point it to the phoenixbeta folder.
make sure that if you put a shortcut on your desktop for the beta install that it is pointing to the correct location. right click on the shortcut and select properties.
the target path is shown at the top of the window.

[Ashley Davis]

Gravity and sim speed aren't altered, it's same as 1.05J. All that changed is cyclic servo speed was made more instantaneous than 1.05. All the other issues were bugs and are now removed. So we are now back to 1.05J. Any further improvements to the flight model I think would involve the test team getting involved and going down to Phoenix to sit with them and work on it some more. This beta update was mostly fixed wing updates, which is why the flight model is pretty much still 1.05J (for heli's)

[chemicalbro]

I've flown on the betaB today for a couple of hours testing most of the options and i have to say its much better than the beta a.

well done to the lads (and lasses ?) at phoenix for sorting out some of the bugs so quick.

another small prob i encountered tho is when you are flying, the menu bar at the top of screen intermitently appears without input from the user. when it does this it lags the sim for a few seconds and can really throw you off your stride.


Barney the speed slider is now under view/displays (its the first item in the list)

[heliphil]

what happened to the Vibe 90 ??????

[HiltonSteve]

And the T-rex 600 nitro RED !

I know there is a t-rex 600 nitro on there but i do prefer the red one as it is the same as mine...