MSH Brain vs Vbar

[Rob Barnes]

Having only ever used a vbar on my the first gen Align 550 I've never used anything else. Why fix it its aint broke and it does what it says on the tin. I have used vbars for the last 3 years without quibble , problem or failure. Easy to set up and use what more could you ask for. " A BAIL-OUT !" feature. It becomes increasingly difficult learning new manoeuvres and inevitably the helis going to hit the deck at some stage agreed ? So on a visit to my local club several of the members were using the MSH Brain which is very similar in price and size. I was shown a couple of demo flights on how the MSH Brain works and I was very impressed with the way it righted the heli almost instantly etc. Who's got them and what do you think please ?

[Tim Procter]

Spend more time on the sim not more money on hardware Rob.

Generally when you are in trouble and heading for the ground you freeze anyway.

Not the answer you were looking for but that's my opinion.

[Rob Barnes]

Thanks Tim !

[CageyH]

I have a brain, and two HC3-SX's.
Whilst the brain is good, it's not as good as an HC3-SX.
Since fitting these, my crash costs have seriously reduced, but as others say, you need time and reflexes to hit the switch before it works.

[Tim Procter]

Thanks Tim !

Well if you are ninja quick at hitting the switch after realising you are in trouble it isn't going to work is it mate.

In a situation when you are concentrating 100% on your flying by the time you have hit the bailout/recovery switch you will have already hit terrafirma.

Sorry mate not wanting to cause offence.

[RcRotaryMadness]

Well if you are ninja quick at hitting the switch after realising you are in trouble it isn't going to work is it mate.

In a situation when you are concentrating 100% on your flying by the time you have hit the bailout/recovery switch you will have already hit terrafirma.

Sorry mate not wanting to cause offence.

+1

Also if you're ninja quick on the switch then you can be ninja quick on the sticks and save it yourself =)

[milly0812]

You'll hit the switch on or after impact lol

[Rob Barnes]

The Sim is great for learning new stuff I admit, but when I actually come to doing it , its not the same and the fear factor comes in to it lol ! We tried using a buddy box one Sunday afternoon with Robgt and I think he was more nervous than me and we just spent the whole 2 flights laughing our heads off lol !

[lee mister]

Yes It wont get you out of trouble if your low down and being silly,
Where its a bonus is when your high up learning new moves and it goes bad, just knowing its there is a confidence booster and 9 times out of ten you don't need it. But that 1 time you did need it its saved you hundreds of pounds, don't listen to all the purists on here that had to learn the old way without the technology we have got now. Its something that you soon realise its a tool for learning and not a magic switch that will get you out of trouble every time. Its a no brainer mate .

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[pgkevet]

Generally when you are in trouble and heading for the ground you freeze anyway.

Not the answer you were looking for but that's my opinion.

You'll hit the switch on or after impact lol

Also if you're ninja quick on the switch then you can be ninja quick on the sticks and save it yourself =)

Well if you are ninja quick at hitting the switch after realising you are in trouble it isn't going to work is it mate.

In a situation when you are concentrating 100% on your flying by the time you have hit the bailout/recovery switch you will have already hit terrafirma.

Sorry mate not wanting to cause offence.

Any of you actually used a rescue system? I keep considering one 'cos I'm not ninja quick at decsions once disorientated but I do hit TH before the deck. Also flying high causes my problems seeing the heli.. this way I migth be able to fly higher for new stuff 'cos i have a disorientation recovery? My flying at height issue is one of losing depth perception/instinct fighting logic as to knowing which way round it is.

[Tim Procter]

Any of you actually used a rescue system?

In my early days of learning to fly yes I had a Helicommand and it did work BUT!!!

That was in the days when I was struggling to do figure 8s and learning orientation stuff, not getting well into 3D like Rob Barnes is now.

IMO Rob is well past the recovery implements that are available now at the stage he is at.

PS: Rob Turnbull has my sympathy buddy leading you Rob, Comedy central..

[milly0812]

Besides Rob it wouldn't be the same without your crash videos and comedy giggling

[RcRotaryMadness]

I have also tried the auto save on the heli commands a while back... its ok to get you through the very basics.. like learning to hover/fly around... but thats all. I think moving on to more advanced stuff then by the time you realise you need auto rescue its either already planted or there isn't enough airspace/time for it to actually rescue the heli.

Crashing is just a part of learning... have a "basher" heli thats cheaper to fix for learning on and something fancy for flying within your limits.

[mark Taylor]

I prefer the Brain over the vbar,
as said height is your friend
you will have more time than think to hit the bail out switch
you know when you've lost it :-)

my gaui X3 TT failed last week whilst inverted
i just hit bail out , then TH

just a broken skid
normally that would have been a bin bag job :-)

yes there are better systems ie heli-command, BUT at 3x the money
i doubt it's a 3x better system ?

i say give one a go
i reckon you won't be dissatisfied ?

hope this helps

[Pj1969]

To be honest none of them would save me, my flying is going backwards lol