outrage g5

[Sao]

No room for a shim and on the G5 bearings the centre section stands proud of the rest of the bearing. Like I say when the bolt is only just put in thru the top hole its all hunky dory, as soon as I thread it into the bottom it locks up a bit. Going to try to find another bolt incase this one is bent a bit

[Ade_Law]

i think its more likely that one or more of the bearings are quite seated correctly. which one however is another matter :-)

Ade

[Ashley Davis]

the slider locking up is caused by it's mounting bracket not being mounted at exactly 90 degrees to the output shaft, I had the same problem, slight correction on the bracket and all solved. There is room there for some minor adjustment before you bolt it up, what might be causing it is a wonky head on one of the mounting screws as this would be enough to put the bracket out of alignment. The bit I'm talking about is the bit that bolts onto the gearbox and has some countersunk holes in it, it must be perfectly aligned vertically or the slider won't move freely.

[Sao]

Yeah it does seem to be the screw heads, the heads aren't perfectly centred on the thread. I've sorted it now though.
Mechanics are all built up and now onto the laborious task of installing the electrics and setting up all the linkages
What horn are people using for the 9257? The stock round jobby about 10mm out?

[Ade_Law]

with the spartan, 2nd hole out on 6 arm horn.

Ade

[squeaky pete]

right, question for you both, i got a outrage g5, the tail blocks that hold the tail pulley, the bearing are different, the bottom block, the shart fits snuggly in, the top block the shaft can wiggle about, the bearing hole seems to be different, blink helis said he's not sure but will replace it if its wrong.
other question, when i put mine in negitive pitch the flybar stiffens up, doesnt have that free swinging seesaw action it as when its in positive pitch, my trex500 doesnt do this or does my blade 400, all my linkages are the rite length, and you two seem to know abit bout them so any input would be much needed!!!! lol!!!

[scallybert]

when i put mine in negitive pitch the flybar stiffens up, doesnt have that free swinging seesaw action it as when its in positive pitch,

This sort of thing has happened to me a few times.

What I've done it is to pop various ball joints off to find out which link, ball joint, etc is causing the stiffness. Proces of elimination.

Then you can fix it.

[Ramble - The weirdest cause of flybar stiffness I came across was with some foam blades on a GAUI EP100. The part of the blade inside the grip is like a semi-circle aroudn the fixing bolt. This sem-circle was slightly malformed, and when the blade was straight out, it fouled on the head of the bolt that secured the grip to the head. This made teh flybar action very stiff.]

By the time I actually get a G5, you lot should have ironed out all the bugs. You can tell I work in IT, can't you..?

[Ashley Davis]

that bearing sounds wrong to me, they should be a snug fit on the shaft.

The stiff flybar was reported on Helifreak by several people, apparently it loosens up after a couple of flights, although personally I didn't experience this as the flybar was ok on mine. You could investigate to see what's causing it as suggested (I would) but if all else fails give it a few runs and see if you have the same experience as the helifreak mob.

[AndersUK]

The flybar going stiff is down to the positioning of the balls on the flybar carrier. If you have them on the more stable (outer) holes then the ball link on the blade grip mixer will bind with the mixer arm.

The solution is to try different ball links or move the balls on the flybar carrier the outer holes. This removes the binding you have described.

[AndersUK]

Your flybar will be ok because you went for the 3D settings. It binds if using the more stable setting on the flybar carrier.

that bearing sounds wrong to me, they should be a snug fit on the shaft.

The stiff flybar was reported on Helifreak by several people, apparently it loosens up after a couple of flights, although personally I didn't experience this as the flybar was ok on mine. You could investigate to see what's causing it as suggested (I would) but if all else fails give it a few runs and see if you have the same experience as the helifreak mob.

[scallybert]

Your flybar will be ok because you went for the 3D settings. It binds if using the more stable setting on the flybar carrier.

So this is a non-issue, as people aren't likely to want -ve pitch [which is when it binds] unless they're using the 3D settings ?

[Ashley Davis]

ah, yes, I did read about some guys using shouldered balls on the flybar carrier (which there are spares of in the kit) which will move the ball links out and away and remove the bind if you are using the less advanced settings.....but I didn't think he was talking about this and just had a stiff flybar.

[Smoothound]

My manual shows shouldered balls on the flybar carrier...

[AndersUK]

Yes, but they are needed on the mixer arm too if using basic settings.

If you look at the link between the mixer arm and fb carrier you will see that using the outer hole on the fb carrier pulls the mixer ball link much closer to the mixer arm, hence why it binds/rubs against the arm.

Putting a shouldered ball on the mixer too will move it further away from the arm itself and should eliminate any binding.

My manual shows shouldered balls on the flybar carrier...

[AndersUK]

No, as it also binds a little on full pos pitch too. Using the inner holes on the carrier poses no problem. If using the outer holes then you do need to use shouldered bolts on the grip mixer arms regardless.

So this is a non-issue, as people aren't likely to want -ve pitch [which is when it binds] unless they're using the 3D settings ?