Positive 130x thread!

[Mike00top]

After finding out problems with mine where due to motor but once it was left for few days to soak in the oil lub she's flying better than when first got her, bags more power & no more tail blow outs holds solid.

gotta say mine runs better as well for a drop of oil on the motor output bearing, sat the heli overnight upside down, turn the motor every so often, cheapest up grade i have ever fitted £00.0001p for a single drop of oil. wish all my upgrades were that cheap

[n00by]

many moons ago we used to take our bearings out of our RC cars and soak them overnight in oil, with the 130x i usually put a small drop on the motor bearing and spin it up very slowly while holding it upside down

[Mike00top]

Many, many, many, many flights in now, and its still great,

[MarkG_R1]

Positive 130x thread!

Same here mike
Still going great although I'm starting to wonder if my motor is loosing its punch or whether I'm running out of talent and bogging it more

[Mike00top]

are you sure you just dont have too much pitch travel ?

[MarkG_R1]

Positive 130x thread!

I'm +90 -90

Too much?

[tourerjim]

Same here mike
Still going great although I'm starting to wonder if my motor is loosing its punch or whether I'm running out of talent and bogging it more

Leave motor to soak in a dab of oil for couple days made big difference to mine, when it drys out i found you get a lot of vibes from the motor.

[Mike00top]

that depends on if, by +90 -90 you mean at each end of the pitch curve or each end of the ATV, or both (if its on both you will possible end up with 85 real, does that make sense ! as one will compound onto the other.

ATV's at 100% and pitch curve at -90 and +90 sounds ok,

the second item to consider is "pitch management", remember that virtually no heli can have both sticks at the outside of the gimbal at the same time for very long before it will bog, you may be able to hit max pitch on your collective stick, but you wont be able to hold max roll at the same time with out the head speed falling off, mainly because max pitch may give 11 degrees of blade angle then add a further 7 degrees of roll and you will see that the main blade is now trying to pull "18 degrees" the blade is virtually stalled at this point, the problem with stalled blades is that they create massive drag, or bog to you and me, so just try lesser inputs or pop the controls just for very short periods of time near ends of travel.

Note: also stalled blades will cause massive lead lag issues too, which will also cause vibration and really hardwork for the servos

The top heli pilots can do this while fast flipping or piro flips and the motor sounds sweet with no bog, just to prove that point look at the video of HORIZON's Ace James Halley doing aileron tic tocs with a NCPX in a front room, i am finding that impossible, even with an identicle set up, but he is sitting down watching the telly while doing it ! ! !

Phaaa ! makes me sick

[Mike00top]

Leave motor to soak in a dab of oil for couple days made big difference to mine, when it drys out i found you get a lot of vibes from the motor.

mine defo runs better too, for a drop of oil on each end of the motor,

[MarkG_R1]

Positive 130x thread!

Sorry should have been clearer
-90 +90 on the ATV
Pitch curve a linear 0-100

Oh and I'm not shy with the oil
It gets a drop every 20 or so flights

[Mike00top]

on a positive note , that should be fine for collective.

i would be really surprised if the motor has given up, as all the ones i know about are still running fine (some vibe/some dont), unlike the little brush devils on the Mcpx and Ncpx,

as long as nothing is binding in the gear train, you should be good to go, a flick of the finger should see the blades rotate 2 - 3 or so turns before stopping.



Mark your flying is coming on so fast, you may as well start now learning the wizard craft of "pitch management" not sure if the sim will allow reducing power as a training action, most sims are wildly overpowered, cut the power by 50% or 60% and then learn to tic toc or continuous flip by being sparing on the collective and cyclic,

i have seen one of the top pilots "tic toc around the clock" with a standard Mcpx ! ! ! so it can be done,

also years ago Bob Johnson used to do "FULL CHAOS" with a very old schluter helicopter with a 60 size engine, and that ran the full 3D routine without bogging, but i still hail BoB as the original master, the rest of us were still bogging doing loops and rolls