Hi, 1st post, views on my kit please?

[Keratos]

Hi K.
Are you new to flying?? Love the engine and the kit you have would do nicely for me subject to the suggestions already made.


+1 So right.
It's a worry every time I lift off. I've had two fail in the air over the years and I listen to the sound they make with bat ears.

totally new

spent the last week reading the align 600N pro 3D manual and the align 3G FBL manual, reading the forums and learning about mechanical setup, before i even power it up!!!

[royotr]

thank you kind sir, is there anywhere nearer? that rcchoperaddict guys wants £100 for a days tuition. i dont like the fact that he is charging for his hobby. i guess some people might agree, I dont. I am pretty hot with PCs and Software but I dont charge for helping friends out or giving advice to prevent high street shops ripping people off. Your offer is most kind.

I don't run a training school or even know anyone that does, but have met numerous struggling beginners who have in cases travelled a good distance and paid for lessons. In general most say with a smile and sparkling eyes " best £80 I've spent. I'm going again."

"i dont like the fact that he is charging for his hobby". The point is it is "your hobby " but it is "his business". Because he is involved in the hobby that you are newly interest it doesn't make you friends . There are lots of elements of this hobbie that takes many hours to sort out and although there are many experienced modellers who are prepared to help and point a newbie in the right direction most heli flyers want to fly their own machines.

[Keratos]

well , I have to agree with you royotr

business vs hobby - I feel this is such a close knit community with oodles of camaraderie, I dont feel helpful people should charge for helping others. I wouldnt. i give my time up for free to help friends and family learn how to upgrade , repair, debug and fix PCs, laptops and mobile phones. Its another hobby and I give my time up to help others. Far too many people who want to profit from the needy

[paulsouthport]

Ian (chopperaddict) gives a lot of his time for free via the forums. Some people choose to pay for his hands on services, and they all, as far as I know, are happy to do so. It's how he makes a living. Many people charge for setup and flying lessons, and it's a valuable service.

I've never met Ian but only hear good things about him, I've certainly benefited from his free advice.

ultimately, you are hoping to put, say, £400 worth of kit into the air. The 1st crash may reduce that to £4 worth of kit. It's a choice!

[paulsouthport]

If you do want to go it alone, then seriously concider getting a sim - Phoenix is great, and a small electric CP heli like the MCPX. Unfortunately you won't be able to use the Walkera radio with a MCPX but you can get a RTF version with a basic radio.

[Keratos]

Ian (chopperaddict) gives a lot of his time for free via the forums. Some people choose to pay for his hands on services, and they all, as far as I know, are happy to do so. It's how he makes a living. Many people charge for setup and flying lessons, and it's a valuable service.

I've never met Ian but only hear good things about him, I've certainly benefited from his free advice.

ultimately, you are hoping to put, say, £400 worth of kit into the air. The 1st crash may reduce that to £4 worth of kit. It's a choice!

yeah, listen pal, I'm not disrespecting anyone who wishes to make a business out of helping people.
for me, I do it for free.
Its just an option, good luck to him
Thanks

[royotr]

You're servos could be Turnigy 620 hs DMC from Hobbyking :- http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idproduct=9441
They seem to have reasonable speed and plenty of torque, for roughly £10 each they have good feedback of 5 stars from most of their users . However , rightly or wrongly I would think that few people would trust £600 plus (new price) worth of heli on a set of these. The problems with cheap servos is more than just reliability , with a ccpm / flybarless setup , they are working continuously under high loads but need to be slop free, accurate and be an almost perfect match in travel and speed.

As a footnote , I must admit that I have used Turnigy digital metalgeared mini servos on smaller flybarred electric helis (trex 500 & 450) and found them to be ok for general flying with mild aerobatics .

[Keratos]

You're servos could be Turnigy 620 hs DMC from Hobbyking :- Turnigy 620DMG+HS High Torque Digital Servo (MG) 10.6kg / .13sec / 52g
They seem to have reasonable speed and plenty of torque, for roughly £10 each they have good feedback of 5 stars from most of their users . However , rightly or wrongly I would think that few people would trust £600 plus (new price) worth of heli on a set of these. The problems with cheap servos is more than just reliability , with a ccpm / flybarless setup , they are working continuously under high loads but need to be slop free, accurate and be an almost perfect match in travel and speed.

Wow. I am humbled. You certainly know your stuff. Yes - they are Turnigy. But the thing is my uncle has flown this for at least 3 years although i never witnessed it. So I'm guessing he was the worlds most accomplished RC heli pilot, or the mechanics , electrics and radios are upto the job. He certainly has tinkered with this because his garage was full of stuff. unlike me - he knew what he was doing with RC helis. . You certainly know what you are talking about - i say that because as a N00b i have no idea what you mean.

[waveydavey]

This is just a thought, did your uncle use the Devo with the heli, if so and he's been flying it then it must be setup. Is there no chance that he could spend some time with you and show you the basics

[Keratos]

This is just a thought, did your uncle use the Devo with the heli, if so and he's been flying it then it must be setup. Is there no chance that he could spend some time with you and show you the basics

NO and NO , he passed away and thats how i got hold of this

[waveydavey]

Okay, sorry to hear that. I'll have a read of the Devo manual today but I would ask that you watch some of the vids I pointed you at earlier. He might use a different Tx but will use similar wording, see if it makes some sense and I'll post later tonight how to set the 600 up on the Devo.

[Keratos]

Great
thanks

[waveydavey]

Just re read your original post and you are using the 3GX, I'm not too familiar but I'll at least try and make some sense of it. Just watched a vid on YouTube about setup and the menu on the Devo and to be honest it look pretty straightforward.

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[coolice]

Hey.

The 3G is fairly straight forward to setup, just follow the manual through step by step making sure you set the gyros to compensate for model movement in the correct direction. Also if there is no model memory in the Devo applicable to this model, start setting up the machine from a fresh blank model memory within the transmitter.
From there I have posted some settings files for the 3G which will make it behave nice and predictable in the air.
I am always around to answer Align 3G/GX questions.

I will echo what has already been said regarding the servos, if there is any doubt about them change them. We're not only thinking of the model but your own safety as well as that with anyone around you.
It's a shame you didn't see the model flying when your uncle flew it, but it will fly again.

Sorry to hear of your uncles passing.

One thing that's just occurred to me is why a spectrum receiver with a Devo transmitter? This transmitter uses a different 2.4ghz protocol to Spectrums DSM 2, so is there another receiver fitted?
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[royotr]

A couple of points that you need to consider, particularly as your heli is a serious and powerful heli as opposed to a Toys r Us 3 channel " parlour toy".

If you are going to try and fly it, for your own personal/ financial protection you need to take out some insurance with th BMFA, RCHA or FPVUK to cover third party risks. Most cover you for flying anywhere in the UK, but I understand that the BMFA insurance now stipulates that the youre only covered you with the land owners permission . For public land that is open to question as some areas have bye laws prohibiting the flying of models, the rest that don't say yes or no puts that issue in question.

The other point , even if you are insured, is the legality of the Walkera Dev 10 transmitter within the uk. I don't know whether it is imported into the uk by a wholesaler who has had it "type approved" or not . I do know that a couple of years ago there were suggestions that even personal imported JR DX9 ( 9303 from the USA I think) would not be covered by our insurance as they weren't EU approved. Perhaps there's someone with experience of this gear that can clarify.

I don't wish to appear as a messenger of doom. But insurance is a point I would mention quite forcefully to any new comer to the hobby. If you ain't covered ,they could have you're house, car, savings, dog cat and goldfish!!