Hi, 1st post, views on my kit please?

[helijohn]

If you are going to try and fly it, for your own personal/ financial protection you need to take out some insurance with th BMFA, RCHA or FPVUK to cover third party risks. Most cover you for flying anywhere in the UK, but I understand that the BMFA insurance now stipulates that the youre only covered you with the land owners permission .

That made me wonder how many people fly on other persons' land without permission?

[royotr]

Just read another thread which in a small way illustrates the need for insurance.

I wonder just how many people out there are not covered by insurance through ignorance or meanness . I have come across people who from their occupation, cars, caravans and holidays have money to spare but make it almost a part of their hobby and pleasure to avoid paying club fees and insurance, bluffing their way for a free passage , bleating " I don't fly much, I only hover or its only a test flight" ironically that's when accidents happen.

I also wonder how many club secretaries have been approached by such individuals to back date their club fee and insurance applications to cover a little heli incident with a third party? Would I commit what amounts to criminal deception to help out such an individual? No Way!

[Keratos]

I wasnt aware of the need for insurance. I hold my hand up. So could anyone recommend a policy , ideally one that you have had to claim on and has paid out!?

[Keratos]

Just been given, lucky boy I say. Not sure about the servos or the Transmitter, it looks good but there aren't many on here I would have thought that would know it. The rest a good setup by the look of it.

Pop over to HeliFreak and watch one of Finless Bobs 600 builds and hopefully that will demystify most of it.

In fact start here Trex600 Nitro Pro Build Vids - HeliFreak

thanks for this

[royotr]

Hi again, sorry to witter on about insurance, back to your heli. I have 2 suggestions .

Firstly if you just want to learn to fly an heli , an easy solution is to sell the Trex 600 and radio . With the cash buy a Spektrum based heli and tx that is ready to fly, virtually out of the box , bounce able and cheap to repair. (Plus a system which is so universal and therefore good for buddy-box training) Many people these day start this way and very effectively to . From the Blade Mcx,MSR, Mcpx , 120sr, 130 then onto trex 450 ( build yourself) or similar, slowly learning flying ability and mechanical/electrical knowledge on the way. No need to take every step or to start with the most basic. The advantage with these models is the shear mass of forum information available and they all fly! If you want to go it alone ,this is the best option.
Only last night I had an old Mcx out when my eldest son visited, he'd learnt to hove a Morley Hughes 300 in 1985 but never touched one since. With a big smile on his face, " Dad this is brilliant, I can't believe how nice it is to fly?"

The second suggestion may suit you with our engineering bias, and that is a complete strip down. This is a thing I end up doing with most secondhand helis I've bought. Not that they have all been badly built but a clean and check of every component , mechanical or electrical helps to detect that all important , cracked component, loose screw, corroded seized bearing , broken plug or frayed wire. perhaps you uncle may have had some associated tools like, blade balancers , pitch gauge, Battery tester, swashplate level gauge. One of the vital component is a good engine, and as suggested in an earlier post, an engine strip-down with bearing renewal is a priority . Even a short layup of a heli can result in corroded engine bearings,rings and sticking carb . The tx and rx batteries can also go down hill within a short period of time. Crumbling fuel tubing within the tank , blocked exhausts and sluggish servos. The list is endless . But fortunately forums and Youtube has all the answers. You'd learn a lot at the same time.

At the end of the day , if you keep the trex600 you really will need to go to see an experienced flyer, even if its just to have it test flown. "If you can't fly you can't trim it out. If its not trimmed out you can't fly it."

[highlightshadow]

I would echo sentiments already expressed .... a Trex600 nitro for a complete beginner is a daunting prospect ... they're powerful and very capable machines but not something i'd recommend without getting it checked out by someone experienced and ideally having someone with you or buddy-leading on your 1st flights

If you're really wanting to start out in the hobby then its a good machine but discipline is required and joining a club would be the best thing you could do in the circumstances
Please don't just take it down to your local park and try and fire it up ... bad consequences will likely follow
Given you've joined here and are asking questions is a sign at least you're trying to do it properly so thats a good start!

Good luck with it.

[helijohn]

Hi again, sorry to witter on about insurance, back to your heli. I have 2 suggestions .

Firstly if you just want to learn to fly an heli , an easy solution is to sell the Trex 600 and radio . With the cash buy a Spektrum based heli and tx that is ready to fly, virtually out of the box , bounce able and cheap to repair.

The second suggestion may suit you with our engineering bias, and that is a complete strip down. This is a thing I end up doing with most secondhand helis I've bought. Not that they have all been badly built but a clean and check of every component "If you can't fly you can't trim it out. If its not trimmed out you can't fly it."

I know it's a question of money but I'd keep the Trex and would get "a Spektrum based heli and tx that is ready to fly, virtually out of the box , bounce able and cheap to repair". Extravagant though.

Stripping a used machine down often occurs naturally as one thing leads to another, you spot something that isn't right and presto it's all in bits. However, that might be a bit daunting for a novice. I wonder how many build their own very first heli??

I wasnt aware of the need for insurance. I hold my hand up. So could anyone recommend a policy , ideally one that you have had to claim on and has paid out!?

I just asked similar here
http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...tml#post916971

[mark_w]

I wasnt aware of the need for insurance. I hold my hand up. So could anyone recommend a policy , ideally one that you have had to claim on and has paid out!?

I just want to clarify... the insurance is for 3rd party items that you might damage. Your heli is not covered, so when you crash you can't claim on the insurance for the heli damage.

[Keratos]

For reasons of ignorance and lack of confidence, I have no intention of stripping anything down even though i probably should and would benefit from such a task. I am planning to meet a couple of guys off these forums in Blackpool , maybe they can check it over , fly it, and give an appraisal.
I dont imagine I will be buying another heli , I have had this one for 4 weeks now and have not even powered it up. I have spent my time reading the manuals, reading again, examining the heli component in-situ, watching the 600 nitro build vids from heliFreak, and general information gathering.

[mark_w]

. I am planning to meet a couple of guys off these forums in Blackpool , maybe they can check it over , fly it, and give an appraisal.

I think thats a great idea, it will give you an idea of the power in the heli without you taking the risk first hand. you can then decide how you wish to proceed

[psychosaffa]

What ever you do, don't fly it, even if the experts say it's ok! This hobby is a drug! Once You have hovered a 600 there is no going back!! You will be shivering in a corner, no friends, thinking what can I sell to get more nitro fuel!! (opti fuel 30 is the shiz)

I wish I listened to my parents and stuck with Chess.

Good luck mate, and if your not prepared to spend allot of money over the next few months, don't bother as it is an expensive hobby.

[PKNEC]

Hi Keratos your a bit closer to BDMAC club (Blackburn and District Model Aircraft Club - Index Page)
They fly a full range of aircraft planks and helis and are a helpfull bunch.
If you go down you can fly your machine/hover have a go with some top tuition and guidance on your heli and under the BMFA scheme you can do this 3 times,it's like a try before you buy scenario.
Junior membership is only £16 and that inc insurance.
I totally agree with previous comments you don't want to be spooling up a 600 nitro on your own and for peace of mind I would change the servos and consider one of these CSM Throttlesafe.
One other question do you think you will like the hobby because if not you could sell your heli,just a thought?

[Keratos]

Hi Keratos your a bit closer to BDMAC club (Blackburn and District Model Aircraft Club - Index Page)
They fly a full range of aircraft planks and helis and are a helpfull bunch.
If you go down you can fly your machine/hover have a go with some top tuition and guidance on your heli and under the BMFA scheme you can do this 3 times,it's like a try before you buy scenario.
Junior membership is only £16 and that inc insurance.
I totally agree with previous comments you don't want to be spooling up a 600 nitro on your own and for peace of mind I would change the servos and consider one of these CSM Throttlesafe.
One other question do you think you will like the hobby because if not you could sell your heli,just a thought?

LOL - Blackburn is a good 45 mins away. There are two clubs here in Blackpool both around 10mins away. I dont imagine I will join a club for now, there is more than ample support on this forum and several members have been very kind in offering to check my heli over. I dont know if I'd like the hobby, I havent tried flying yet. I guess its suck-it-and-see.

[PKNEC]

LOL - Blackburn is a good 45 mins away. There are two clubs here in Blackpool both around 10mins away. I dont imagine I will join a club for now, there is more than ample support on this forum and several members have been very kind in offering to check my heli over. I dont know if I'd like the hobby, I havent tried flying yet. I guess its suck-it-and-see.

Thats good that some of the lads have offered their time,if you fancy a go on a flight sim your more than welcome to come and have a go so you can get an idea of what your in for.

[Keratos]

What ever you do, don't fly it, even if the experts say it's ok! This hobby is a drug! Once You have hovered a 600 there is no going back!! You will be shivering in a corner, no friends, thinking what can I sell to get more nitro fuel!! (opti fuel 30 is the shiz)

I wish I listened to my parents and stuck with Chess.

Good luck mate, and if your not prepared to spend allot of money over the next few months, don't bother as it is an expensive hobby.

rather amusing. very good!