2 X 500's

[wouldbeflyer]

Perhaps, after a break i will have a look at it again and just maybe with one of these systems I just might crack it. Someone recently told me about this bit of kit ,maybe I should have invested, but as I say, I started badly with the wrong kit and it was all down hill from there

[Peteski]

The best known FBL with this feature is the Bavarian Demon 3SX, but there are lower cost options hitting the market. There is now the 'Spirit' which is similar to the 3SX but cheaper.

Microbeast plus pro is very similar too. Gives you the options of both self-levelling and full hands off rescue from any orientation. It's something I never intend to use in normal flight, but does give me the confidence to try new moves knowing that I can bail out if required. You can use it as a trainer too with self levelling and pitch/roll limits all fully programmable. You can make it totally beginner friendly if you like with strong self levelling and max pitch/roll limits.

[wouldbeflyer]

Decisions--decisions ,I really must consider this before anything else.The money spent on all associated kit will be wasted when I bin it and this gives me another option I have not looked at.I am in so deep now that more expense bothers me,.Can you give me an idea what say a Microbeast plus or Spirit comes out at please .So far all I can find are comments. My head is spinning a bit ,gone of on a tangent here

[Grumpy]

The Spirit is about £130 plus post: Spirit - Spirit System - Tomáš Jdrzejek You could recover a good part of that cost by selling your existing controller.

I'm not sure on the Microbeast Plus Pro, but by the time you add the 'pro' upgrade (needed for self level) then it will be a fair bit more than the Spirit.

[wouldbeflyer]

ok thanks for your time and info.Thinking back to one of your earlier replies ,I believe you said about using something to install it but cant recal what it was

[Peteski]

The Microbeast plus V4 pro is £185 and Spirit is around £130 plus postage, so a little cheaper. The rescue functionality is exactly the same for both, but the Microbeast has very good self-levelling trainer modes too. Not sure how flexible the Spirit is, but probably very similar. The Spirit is often difficult to find in stock as they release in batches and sell out very quickly. The Microbeast plus pro is also often out of stock too, but you can buy the standard version (microbeast plus) and then upgrade the firmware. But then you would need to buy the USB dongle too, which is useful for programming the unit anyway.

Another option would be the brand new Neuron which is under £100. Less proven in the field though, so may or may not have some bugs. See info below on this other thread:-

http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...ontroller.html

[wouldbeflyer]

You seen to be very well informed and up to date, thanks again for your info. I'm trying to take all this in and must not do anything hasty as that is what led me down this path in the first place, learnt a hell of a lot in a short space of time though. Time for a bit of reading up on these systems, once Iv'e binned them there will be no going back

[trillian]

Just to add to the comments made already. First of all, the Blade 500 with a properly setup FBL unit should fly really well and should be good for learning as it's not too small or too big. They're all intimidating in the beginning but that wears off with time. Using a sim helps as well, you get confident with certain moves on the sim and slowly apply them in real life.

Everyone I know using the Spirit has only good things to say about it. I was also quite surprised to see how much progress some club members have made due to having the rescue function.

[Peteski]

You seen to be very well informed and up to date, thanks again for your info.

I just did a lot of research before deciding what to buy. I was on the fence between the Spirit and Microbeast and chose the latter mainly on immediate availability (a couple of months ago). It's been great as I'm sure the Spirit would be too from everything I've read. The Neuron would be more of a gamble as it's so new.

[Scotvar]

Just to add about the Spirit, it also has a self level function which can be used for training purposes. The Spirit is very easy to set up and I'm slowly changing all my helis over to the Spirit I'm that impressed with it. I can't comment on the self leveling properties because I don't use it but from reading on other forums it does exactly what is says on the tin.
I think any of the above mentioned options will help a lot. It is a difficult learning curve but very rewarding. Like all hobbies you'll go through times where you enjoy it more than others and only you can decide whether or not you enjoy it but it seems like you have invested a lot of time and effort into it. Like has been said, have a little break and then give it another go. There are some great people involved in this hobby and if you join a club you'll really progress. To be honest, you might just enjoy being at the flying field chatting without even flying!

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Paul

[wouldbeflyer]

Once I learned how to program it so the tx settings could be used to turn the response rates down ,the 500 was superb and could almost go handsfree, I think the only problem with it was about 6 inches away, namely me. I must have a good look at the Spirit before I bin everything, my mate says its a button press to save you but someone else said its just release sticks, can you enlighten me please. Been of heli's for a week or so now and getting the urge to do something

[wouldbeflyer]

Hello Paul. I would join a club as it does appeal but the only club that would be good is about 45 minutes away. After a spell away from it then I may join but for the moment I must gather my thoughts. Anything is better than going it alone as I have been. Its not as clear cut as I though, close the door and walk away

[wouldbeflyer]

If I stay with it then I will be guided by you, thanks

[Peteski]

my mate says its a button press to save you but someone else said its just release sticks, can you enlighten me please.

It's a button press while you let go of the sticks - as a cyclic stick input would override the rescue. It's something you have to make instinctively second nature like throttle hold. In many ways rescue is the modern day throttle hold!

[james_2k]

If you have a decent tx you can program it in to disable the sticks while the rescue function is used. Forgotten the exact term for This programming though. (Custom mix? Something Like that) But I know on a dx9 you can do it.

Also so I personally found eBay much better than in here for selling things. When I sold my 2' and 450s they were in here for ages and sold on eBay for far more than here. Now if you are buying. Here is best. Just imo