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  • T Rex 700e + 3G Initial Setup

    I`m just coming to the end of initial setup of my 3G TRex700e.

    In DIR mode I have used the swash mix to set up the recommended cyclic and collective pitch range for the 3G system.

    Limits and directions and the tail have also been done.

    Just wondering what next...

    Do I now set up my three pitch curves to reduce the travel to get the required pitch range in each flight mode or do I start reducing the swash to set up any required limits?

    The cyclic pitch will possibly need reducing as well.

    What`s the correct method to finish up.
    Minicopter Diabolo - V Bar v5.3, Kontronik Kosmik 200 and Pyro 750-56 .
    JR Vibe SG E12 Hiroki Ito Edition,Scorpion Tribunus 200A ,4525 Ultimate Motor,Spirit Pro,Full Telemetry,Jeti Rx,JR SL series servos.
    RJX Vector 3D Speed - V Bar v5.3 Pyro750-56 Comp Kontronik Kosmik 200
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    T Rex 600N DFC V bar v5.3 & YS60SR
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  • #2
    Adjust the value's in the swash mix the same as you would a flybarred setup.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Malc1 View Post
      What`s the correct method to finish up.
      Buy another tail gyro and use that before you waste any more time


      Sorry, couldn't help myself
      Phil
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Smoothound View Post
        Buy another tail gyro and use that before you waste any more time


        Sorry, couldn't help myself
        say i wanted to use a spartan or alternative gyro with the 3g system do i just simply unplug the gyro and plug in a new one ?? sorry to sound dumb
        Kel Velocity 50 sk-720 ,Fusion 50 v-bar pro 5.2 ,Velocity 90 v-bar pro 5.2 & JR DSX11 ,Phoenix and a fridge full of bottled water RCHA Courier Services PM for Details www.parcelshipper.co.uk and www.impactexpress.co.uk

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        • #5
          Originally posted by millerman View Post
          say i wanted to use a spartan or alternative gyro with the 3g system do i just simply unplug the gyro and plug in a new one ?? sorry to sound dumb
          Yes mate, just unplug the rudder and the gain from the 3G unit and fit your own gyro as normal direct into the receiver.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by busterboy View Post
            Yes mate, just unplug the rudder and the gain from the 3G unit and fit your own gyro as normal direct into the receiver.
            nice one , ive only ever used the align gp 750-780 gyros so im looking at a spartan whats the best one to go for ?? (sorry for the thread steal)
            Kel Velocity 50 sk-720 ,Fusion 50 v-bar pro 5.2 ,Velocity 90 v-bar pro 5.2 & JR DSX11 ,Phoenix and a fridge full of bottled water RCHA Courier Services PM for Details www.parcelshipper.co.uk and www.impactexpress.co.uk

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            • #7
              Originally posted by millerman View Post
              nice one , ive only ever used the align gp 750-780 gyros so im looking at a spartan whats the best one to go for ?? (sorry for the thread steal)
              I would actually start a new thread then we arnt hacking Malc's thread but while I am here..

              Its all about personal choice.

              CSM 720
              Spartan 760
              Futaba GY520

              any many more are all great gyro's.

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              • #8
                So out of DIR mode leave the swash mix alone and adjust the pitch curves for N,ID1 and ID2 and only adjust the swash mix for the required cyclic.

                Just want to be sure.

                BTW what cyclic pitch is everyone using on the 700E?

                Don`t want any silly accidents when its test flown
                Minicopter Diabolo - V Bar v5.3, Kontronik Kosmik 200 and Pyro 750-56 .
                JR Vibe SG E12 Hiroki Ito Edition,Scorpion Tribunus 200A ,4525 Ultimate Motor,Spirit Pro,Full Telemetry,Jeti Rx,JR SL series servos.
                RJX Vector 3D Speed - V Bar v5.3 Pyro750-56 Comp Kontronik Kosmik 200
                T Rex 700N DFC, OS 105HZR, JR HV servo's, Spirit FBL system.
                Miniature Aircraft Furion 6 CGY750 KDE 600XF G3
                T Rex 600N DFC V bar v5.3 & YS60SR
                DJI F550 multicopter coming soon.
                Blade mCPX - now Version 2

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Malc1 View Post
                  So out of DIR mode leave the swash mix alone and adjust the pitch curves for N,ID1 and ID2 and only adjust the swash mix for the required cyclic.

                  Just want to be sure.

                  BTW what cyclic pitch is everyone using on the 700E?

                  Don`t want any silly accidents when its test flown
                  if you go on aligns web site there is a video with bert kammera on and shows you in very easy steps how to set it up(on a 700) i did this when i set up my 550e fblits easyer than trying to work it out fronm the destructions !!
                  Kel Velocity 50 sk-720 ,Fusion 50 v-bar pro 5.2 ,Velocity 90 v-bar pro 5.2 & JR DSX11 ,Phoenix and a fridge full of bottled water RCHA Courier Services PM for Details www.parcelshipper.co.uk and www.impactexpress.co.uk

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                  • #10
                    I did check out a video earlier of Bert setting his heli up but it didn`t cover this I don`t think.
                    Minicopter Diabolo - V Bar v5.3, Kontronik Kosmik 200 and Pyro 750-56 .
                    JR Vibe SG E12 Hiroki Ito Edition,Scorpion Tribunus 200A ,4525 Ultimate Motor,Spirit Pro,Full Telemetry,Jeti Rx,JR SL series servos.
                    RJX Vector 3D Speed - V Bar v5.3 Pyro750-56 Comp Kontronik Kosmik 200
                    T Rex 700N DFC, OS 105HZR, JR HV servo's, Spirit FBL system.
                    Miniature Aircraft Furion 6 CGY750 KDE 600XF G3
                    T Rex 600N DFC V bar v5.3 & YS60SR
                    DJI F550 multicopter coming soon.
                    Blade mCPX - now Version 2

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Malc1 View Post
                      So out of DIR mode leave the swash mix alone and adjust the pitch curves for N,ID1 and ID2 and only adjust the swash mix for the required cyclic.

                      Just want to be sure.

                      Set the collective and cyclic in DIR mode using the radio swash AFR as shown in the book. When you exit DIR the 3G will reboot, then go ahead and set the tail gyro in the normal way (GP780). The AFR settings are now set and do not need any more adjustment.

                      Now set the N, ID1 & ID2 using radio curves in the normal way, do not touch AFR as if you do the previous sequence must be repeated.

                      I'm flying a 600 with 8 degrees of cyclic pitch and around 15% expo, hope this helps.

                      TRex 500 ESP VBar

                      Flybarless is more

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                      • #12
                        I have run through and set up the collective at 14 degrees and the cyclic to 12 degrees as recommended.

                        The tail is done.

                        The pitch can obviously been reduced with the pitch curves.

                        The cyclic I know needs to be somewhere near your settings but are you saying that I need to reduce this down from 12 degrees in the initial set up in DIR mode?
                        Minicopter Diabolo - V Bar v5.3, Kontronik Kosmik 200 and Pyro 750-56 .
                        JR Vibe SG E12 Hiroki Ito Edition,Scorpion Tribunus 200A ,4525 Ultimate Motor,Spirit Pro,Full Telemetry,Jeti Rx,JR SL series servos.
                        RJX Vector 3D Speed - V Bar v5.3 Pyro750-56 Comp Kontronik Kosmik 200
                        T Rex 700N DFC, OS 105HZR, JR HV servo's, Spirit FBL system.
                        Miniature Aircraft Furion 6 CGY750 KDE 600XF G3
                        T Rex 600N DFC V bar v5.3 & YS60SR
                        DJI F550 multicopter coming soon.
                        Blade mCPX - now Version 2

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                        • #13
                          Yes.

                          12 degrees cyclic is crazy for my style of flying so it is necessary to reduce the radio swash mix to ~50 leading to cyclic pitch of 8 degrees. The rationale is that doing it this way ensures full radio resolution

                          It flies nice

                          TRex 500 ESP VBar

                          Flybarless is more

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                          • #14
                            12 degrees is also crazy for me - more like 8 or 9 I think.

                            I thought about the full resolution thing thats what is confusing me a bit.

                            Surely reducing this down in DIR mode does not give you this.

                            Unless I`m still not getting it
                            Minicopter Diabolo - V Bar v5.3, Kontronik Kosmik 200 and Pyro 750-56 .
                            JR Vibe SG E12 Hiroki Ito Edition,Scorpion Tribunus 200A ,4525 Ultimate Motor,Spirit Pro,Full Telemetry,Jeti Rx,JR SL series servos.
                            RJX Vector 3D Speed - V Bar v5.3 Pyro750-56 Comp Kontronik Kosmik 200
                            T Rex 700N DFC, OS 105HZR, JR HV servo's, Spirit FBL system.
                            Miniature Aircraft Furion 6 CGY750 KDE 600XF G3
                            T Rex 600N DFC V bar v5.3 & YS60SR
                            DJI F550 multicopter coming soon.
                            Blade mCPX - now Version 2

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                            • #15
                              That's how it works fella, good luck and please let us know how you get on

                              TRex 500 ESP VBar

                              Flybarless is more

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