My Align fbl experience

[raptorheli2]

erm guys... not sure if I understood this right.
the shorter the servo arms, the less the load on the servo.

To create a given force in the pushrods, a shorter servo arm requires less torque on the servo (but more movement for the same travel).

The 700 isn't really designed for flybarless, that's the problem. The bellcranks are wrong, because they translate 1 mm of servo pushrod movement into 2 mm of swash movement.

not quite true, the best you can have is have them equal to the distance of the balls on the bellcrank. your right in that the bellcranks really need addressing. your placing excessive load on the servos with anything other than same distance as the bellcranks.....HOWEVER, that is not an option for us so if this bounce proves to be an issue then a firmware update is required or give us software to adjust it.

cheers

[GravityKills]

...your placing excessive load on the servos with anything other than same distance as the bellcranks.....

why that?

[Asid]

yup, spot on asid. what we need is a dampening effect which could be sought out in the software. but who knows what this software will offer.

cheers

Ahhhhhhhhhhh BETA TEST Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[ChrisB]

Chris what is the distance of the ball on your setup. ?

Mikado advises shortening the distance.

i agree with Raptorheli .That's why they recommend fast strong servos.

What about in the software. Maybe if you had an acceleration parameter like the spartan gyro. This would reduce bounce.

Just a thought

The 700N supplied horns give 25.5mm from ball to ball the original holes are 30.5mm

My 600N with V Bar and Mikado head and set up to their instruction are 20mm across.

[Asid]

Mikado is designed for flybarless.

Align Push Pull isn't .

[raptorheli2]

why that?

without getting into a huge debate...it just is..lol

cheers

[ChrisB]

Do i take it they are releasing software we can twiddle with too?

[GravityKills]

without getting into a huge debate...it just is..lol

cheers

hard to argue with that... let's wait for the next episode of mythbusters

Hint: Hirobo has been doing this for ages, apparently without any ill consequences. Mikado, too.

[Asid]

Do i take it they are releasing software we can twiddle with too?

Ive heard that this will be an option soon. This is whats needed.

[ChrisB]

Ive heard that this will be an option soon. can this is whats needed.

TBH i think it does,some tail gyros allow pc connectivity for the ultimate in fine tuning,i personally feel a fbl system would benefit from allowing the end user to fine tune it to their setup.

Standing there shouting "Work ya Ba$tard does not have the same effect

We just need more user input which will come.

[Asid]

TBH i think it does,some tail gyros allow pc connectivity for the ultimate in fine tuning,i personally feel a fbl system would benefit from allowing the end user to fine tune it to their setup.

Standing there shouting "Work ya Ba$tard does not have the same effect

The simplicity of the 3G is what makes it attractive. But it will need more..

[Smoothound]

The simplicity of the 3G is what makes it attractive. But it will need more..

Which of course removes the simplicity

[ChrisB]

A quote from the same Guy who got the manual misprint correct on RR.


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That was exactly Align's intention, to have a easy to setup FBL system where first timers can have instant gratification without complex setups and dragging a laptop or programming module out to the field.

But it doesn't stop there...

The Align 3G system is fully programmable, with complexity that rivals any of the existing system on the market today. In fact, the programmer software has already been completed. A lot of the setup parameters will eventually be opened up to user modifications through the programming kit. But for now, they want to keep some tried and true settings in the system, so that FBL novices can learn the basic setup and experience the benefits of FBL system.

Once they open it up for external programming, the possibility is endless.

[Asid]

Once they open it up for external programming, the possibility is endless.

As will be the questions on the forums

[Stuart]

The Align 3G system is fully programmable, with complexity that rivals any of the existing system on the market today. In fact, the programmer software has already been completed. A lot of the setup parameters will eventually be opened up to user modifications through the programming kit. But for now, they want to keep some tried and true settings in the system, so that FBL novices can learn the basic setup and experience the benefits of FBL system.

Once they open it up for external programming, the possibility is endless.

I can see if others have the same frustrations on setups and initial flights on the system as is, it could have the opposite effect and turn off many from taking the leap into flybarless - when they need the box of tricks to fine tune it.

The geometery is essential a 1:1 travel ratio from servo to swash is a must - I had the same issue on my velocity and by bringing the servo horns in to achieve a 1:1 ratio.

I know its an Align system here - but I would recommend that you read and play with the other pages.

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