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  • #76
    As it seems now more and more people have experienced the same kind of malfunction at the hands of the ill fated DX6i!

    I certainly wont be recommending that TX to anyone again!
    sigpicWayne AKA OB1

    Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

    Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
    Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
    Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
    Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by cambs flyer View Post
      As it seems now more and more people have experienced the same kind of malfunction at the hands of the ill fated DX6i!

      I certainly wont be recommending that TX to anyone again!
      Hang on guys!!

      Before you totally destroy the secondhand market for people who have or want to upgrade their tx's, don't you think there are more than enough DX6i's users who have no problems at all?

      I am one of those people and before we panic ALL Blade users and DX6i users, I would like to see more evidence of a design fault not simply that the TX will not work when left in close to zero conditions.

      All electronic components have a temperature tolerance (even those in Futaba and JR) which may have been exceeded in extreme temperatures.

      Wayne you said yourself that you had left it on the ground for 25 minutes. Are you going to do the same with your DX7? I wouldn't advise it until the summer mate.

      Please, a bit of perspective. Some beginners may be wondering what they have bought with their Blades

      Mark
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      • #78
        The temperature of the day concerned was well over the minim temperature the unit could work efficiently, plus the chap I spoke to said leaving it on the grass shouldn't have made any difference at all!

        That unit has caused £90+ worth of damage to my Trex 500, and like Brin cost him expensive blades which lasted all of three minutes again due to the DX6i.

        Sorry if you feel this unit is being bad mouth, I've had all the proof I need as has others, Jason quite easily could have ended up with an expensive repair bill had he's TX malfunctioned after he took flight, luckily he's unit didn't work from word go, as it sat in he's car about 30 minutes before we went out to the field.

        Isn't this forum about discussing the do's and don'ts, plenty of other gear gets slatted, and after Saturday if anyone had been standing there it would have been disastrous, so no sorry mate I'm not sitting on the fence with this, the unit is flawed and has cost many a pretty penny due to its inability to work in conditions it claims shouldn't be a problem.
        sigpicWayne AKA OB1

        Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

        Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
        Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
        Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
        Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

        Joint second best sites on the Web:-
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        • #79
          Wayne, just out of interest are you using the supplied battery compartment or have you made a welded/soldered pack for your tx. In standard form I can see the battery bay being a liability and maybe the cold could cause a bad joint on the cells.
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          • #80
            No mate, it had four fresh Duracell batts in, as the other day it was beeping warning the present batts were coming to the end of there useful life.

            This again is another reason why I'm so pee'd off with the thing.

            I'd like to mention it never cause a moments concern during the warmer months, but I like to go out on occasion in the colder months too.

            Also your talking about someone who cant stay out very long in one session, and mostly the unit sat on top of my accessory case before it sat upright on the grass next to the case.
            Last edited by cambs flyer; 11-02-2009, 07:24 PM.
            sigpicWayne AKA OB1

            Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

            Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
            Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
            Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
            Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

            Joint second best sites on the Web:-
            http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
            http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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            • #81
              I haven't followed all of the bulletins on the BMFA but there was concern over the use of dry cell batteries in the DX6. If you keep it, it might be worth seeing if you can make a proper rechargeable pack for it.

              Sorry you had a crash all the same when it wasn't down to you. As you say though it could of been a whole lot worse.
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              • #82
                All I'm saying is there appears to be a mixed bag of experience here.

                My DX6i was bought in January last year and I assume was the first batch.

                I have flown it in minus conditions and have had a years use out of it with no problems at all.

                What did Horizon say was wrong with your TX Wayne?

                If it was the potentiometer failure, this was well documented and should of been checked before flying again.

                If it wasn't, what was the problem?

                I simply would like some clarification before any of my birds go in unexpectedly.

                Also, don't say my last post is trying in any way to suggest this forum is anything other than an open speech forum.

                I'm not defending anything other than many thousands of Blade/DX6i users who may now be scared to fly there Heli's.

                Mark

                PS. How do you suggest I sell my perfectly working DX6i now?
                sigpicx2

                Airskipper 50 - For sale

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                • #83
                  Look I'm not saying don't buy one, just take caution when out in the cold thats all, yes I vented a bit of frustration due to my T500 damage who wouldn't.

                  But safety comes first before anything, and what happened Saturday was about as dangerous as it gets.

                  HH said something something isn't right in my TX, I'm no expert, but I'd be foolish not to mention this and in a weeks time someone has a real nasty accident!
                  sigpicWayne AKA OB1

                  Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

                  Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
                  Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
                  Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
                  Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

                  Joint second best sites on the Web:-
                  http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
                  http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by cambs flyer View Post
                    HH said something something isn't right in my TX, I'm no expert, but I'd be foolish not to mention this and in a weeks time someone has a real nasty accident!
                    Safety ALWAYS come's first Wayne and I would be the first to throw mine in the bin should it become dangerous. (I've always had the knack of putting my foot in it regarding safety, have a search for the thread about the Trex being pressed onto the door of a garage by Jason C)

                    All I'm saying is that if your TX has a design fault in it then HH or Spektrum should say what it is.

                    At present, the only problem is cr@p pots in a current batch of TX's.

                    I work in Electronics and I would guess someone ordered the wrong spec ones and they got mixed up.

                    Spektrum to their credit issued a recall pretty quick.

                    Futaba who I have always used in the past did not come forward quick enough in my opinion when the whole GUID 00000 fiasco occurred IMHO. There was also confusion about what caused it. At the time I sat to one side and eventually went Spektrum.

                    Funnily enough, I have just upgraded to a DX7 myself but will continue with the DX6 on the 450 as it can just be chucked in the car for a quick flight at work.

                    I wont be able to sell it now anyway

                    Cheers Wayne

                    Mark
                    sigpicx2

                    Airskipper 50 - For sale

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                    • #85
                      Well i for one want to know about any potential issues with any transmitter. So if i did own a blade 400/DX6i then i would want to know. Better to know than not to... what happens if you sell your TX to me Mark and then it downs one of my expensive birds and hits my misus thats standing watching me fly? Waynes has been fine up until this issue just like yours. Now if i was aware of the issue i could have conducted tests or sent it away to be looked at. Wayne your information is welcomed. Not having a go at you Mark just trying to get my point across. I'll be intrested to know what Spektrum write on the report card when you receive it back Wayne. Im guessing a few other people watching this thread will also. This hobby is dangerous enough. Also im sure if i think hard i could find an issue with half the equipment/models that we all use. I think basically what im trying to say is we need to be aware of anything even if its only potential. I think i would make someone aware of this if i was selling them my DX6i too. Thats just me and would be so i can sleep easy at night.

                      Cheers
                      Lee
                      Last edited by Made2Fade; 11-02-2009, 09:14 PM.
                      Lee
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                      • #86
                        Thanks Lee

                        Mark you taking the **** or what?
                        sigpicWayne AKA OB1

                        Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

                        Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
                        Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
                        Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
                        Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

                        Joint second best sites on the Web:-
                        http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
                        http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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                        • #87
                          I never said Waynes information was not welcomed Lee.

                          All I said was that I would like clarification of what the problem was not simply state that all DX6i's were crap.

                          There IS a problem with some potentiometers and the trim switches being weak. I totally agree that these are dangerous and should be sorted which is what HH are doing.

                          I also think we take a lot of our equipment for granted. Flying in minus conditions could result in equipment failure on any part of the Heli. eg Trex 700 links becoming brittle, Lipo's failing and at any time certain regulators being a cr@p design, Rappy tail failures etc. Any one of those could cause your Heli to hit someone.

                          I take the safety of my machines very seriously. Before I even flew the Rappy I changed the tail to the Align one, I hot glued my regulator as I did not like the look of the PCB mounting for the power supply. I use Red locktite for any critical head component NOT blue (always use heat to remove if needs be). Always preflight check servos and just before take off.

                          Sorry I'm going off the point.

                          No Lee I won't be selling my DX6i.

                          Mark
                          sigpicx2

                          Airskipper 50 - For sale

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by cambs flyer View Post
                            Mark you taking the **** or what?
                            Wayne, why would I take the ****?
                            sigpicx2

                            Airskipper 50 - For sale

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                            • #89
                              well i have had my dx6i since november last year and have flown every week with it not one glitch or hiccup which im used to when i use the fm/am txs for my cars and planes.
                              Maybe we take this technology for granted and just expect it to be flawless because for the most part it is pretty flawless and easy to use,
                              But today when i could NOT control the tail it really bothered me that i could have lost the whole heli and it wouldnt have been my fault .

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by marktigere1 View Post
                                I never said Waynes information was not welcomed Lee.
                                Not the impression i got mate, sorry but dont know if it was the way ya worded it bud but i just sounded more like you were bothered about this issue devaluing your DX6i?

                                Cheers
                                Lee
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