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  • #31
    Thank god for that MJ!!

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    • #32
      bummer. was enjoying that

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      • #33
        It's a reason I have levelling but no climbing setup on mine too, a pirouetting auto must be so much easier if you don't have to think about being level.

        Of course that's if you don't freeze in terror
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        • #34
          if you are high enough the piro isn't a problem on an auto in which tail drive has failed
          it's back to old school with non-driven tails the tail weather veins and you control the direction via the cyclics
          you many not have the same directional control but you have some
          the biggest problem is not panicing when it happens
          too low and its history before you realise whats happend

          if you lose rudder control with the tail still rotating that is much harder to stop any damage

          but its like any un-planned auto if the heli is in the wrong position, too low etc then its a good chance the heli will hit mother earth with damage
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          • #35
            I just learned this is a known problem!

            So it must have been the pin coming out. Its either been kept quiet or Im not on the ball?


            Guys, check your tail, I'll get it in from the car in a mo and take a pic for you but Im just trying to find out about sourcing the "upgrade"/new part.
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            • #36
              Loosing your touch mate

              http://m.rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t763180p1/
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              • #37
                As Maj said I had the crown gear on my Faifa strip today so completely lost the tail and still not sure how I saved it but luckily had a better outcome as apart from the crown gear no other damage done. Horrible when they go in though.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KnifeEdge View Post
                  Cheers Jimbo, I don't do RR much at all.

                  Originally posted by jonesheli View Post
                  As Maj said I had the crown gear on my Faifa strip today so completely lost the tail and still not sure how I saved it but luckily had a better outcome as apart from the crown gear no other damage done. Horrible when they go in though.

                  Yea its rubbish lol. I was vertical and about 20ft up and didn't catch it in time. Glad yours got down OK.

                  I had a similar issue on the Faifa ages ago. Lost the tail and landed perfectly while it was spinning lol, must be the heli
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by electricsceadu View Post
                    if you are high enough the piro isn't a problem on an auto in which tail drive has failed
                    it's back to old school with non-driven tails the tail weather veins and you control the direction via the cyclics
                    ....
                    For autos, yes. But if Ben had tried "rescue mode", the motor would have remained driven and the pirouette would have become faster and faster with the heli still plummeting towards the earth ...
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                    • #40
                      the subject strayed onto autos with the heli piroing
                      hence my answer
                      with motor power the piro will continue and the rescue function would be into overtime without much luck
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                      a bunch of bls servo's and a 701 gyro
                      Powered by an OS91 hz and a MP2
                      Winner of the LHC Scale Cup 2011

                      1/4 scale Vario Bell 47 G3
                      1/3 scale Vario R22
                      2012 LHC Scale Cup Judge
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                      www.alcesterhelicopterclub.bmfa.org
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by electricsceadu View Post
                        the subject strayed onto autos with the heli piroing
                        hence my answer
                        with motor power the piro will continue and the rescue function would be into overtime without much luck
                        Yup - agreed! Raises an interesting thought though doesn't it about what your instinct should be in an emergency. Before rescue mode systems, everyone learnt to hit TH as an automatic reaction. I wonder if some are learning to hit "rescue" instead - which might not always be the right thing!?
                        Tom
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                        • #42
                          It should be the manufacturer that let's us know about these issues! Not hope we stumble across it on a forum. Not good.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by heathy View Post
                            It should be the manufacturer that let's us know about these issues! Not hope we stumble across it on a forum. Not good.
                            Totally agree. Poor form in my opinion.
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                            • #44
                              This could cause injury to people or wildlife small chance but could.
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                              • #45
                                I have to agree to. That post on RR is only from this month also. I do wonder when it was found out?

                                If it had been a few seconds earlier when I was flying toward us it could have been a lot different??
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