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  • 130X Owners Guide Must Read, Checklist and General Information

    Hi all,

    Following the recent launch of the 130X we would like to take an opportunity to provide some feedback from our findings with the new model. And to help out a few issues some users are having. Our in house expert has compiled a complete checklist you should complete for you new 130X. This can help improve the 130X to no end!

    We except no responsibility for damage, accidents or anything else that may occur during any repair or tweak, and this should be treated as a guide only.

    Check List

    1) check tail servo rear retaining nut, most are using a single drop of CA rather than the silicon it comes with.
    2) many are putting a length of fuel tube over the over the swash upper links to hold the ball links better
    3) use the spare canopy grommets that come with the kit for the 3 lower swash joints, and not the ones supplied already fitted.
    4) Balance both main and tail blades
    5) tighten main and tail blades just enough to dampen gravity, certainly not floppy loose as horizon suggest
    6) tail and cyclic gains may need reducing if slop is left in the linkages
    7) may have to undo tail linkage ball link a few turns to help centre tail throws, any tail blow outs are directly related.
    8) check boom is fully seated, some are not !
    9) use 240 / 320 grit wet and dry to umbrella gear a to help prevent it touching FETs on elev servo, don’t let the dust go into other bearings and servos though
    10) replace all bearings especially tail end with Japanese abec 3 huge difference by those who have changed already, i second this as i done it on the mcpx
    10a) some are finding that triflow grease in stock bearings is helping too !
    11) thread lock both feather shafts
    12) check tail hub is 90degs to tail shaft ( some are not ? ) tail blade tracking / vibration
    13) a tiny spot of plastic servo gear grease dotted each side of the tail servo hook up carrier on the threaded shaft helps tail control.
    14) some are finding that a second boom support block located half way between stock boom support block and tail box helps the push rod support better and reduces wag slightly.
    15) check main gear is not too tight up against bottom bearing, don’t press it tight like the mcpx
    15a) some are fitting a small collar just above the bottom bearing. This transfers flight loads to both bearings
    15b) some are trying a small shim above the top bearing on the main shaft, (not much benefit).
    15c) some are using fine bore brass or alloy tubing to slide over main shaft and space ‘A’ gear from bottom bearing. This transfers flight loads to both bearings ( good option )

    Things to note:
    1) gyros switch off when motor stops to 0, then 4 seconds and reinitialize in rate type mode, once motors running again, gyro’s go to heading lock mode ( all 3)
    2) other batteries are showing a fair performance against stock twin Miniaviation 300s and Gens ace 450 and others
    3) after a smack, check rear torque shaft is still aligned with end of gear C and hasn't moved
    4) some are getting rear tail and main blade failures, mostly because they aren't balanced and snugged down correctly
    5) bad vibes when spinning up are not ok, no matter what horizon say, most are caused by poor bearings and bad balance / securing
    6) it copes with crashes as well as can be expected if not slightly better, (once other issues are checked above)
    7) sub trim can be used on axis if TX is holding off centre, regardless of what the manual says, its wrong.
    8) the throttle curves in the manual are wrong ! ! dont allow such a jump in throttle between IU's it will only put strain on bits that dont need it
    9) try not to run batteries back to back one after the other, as that motor is running at 165 deg, and in runners build heat ( to be fair you should not do this with any electric heli really)


    You may see a mention there of up rated Japanese bearings, we are compiling a kit of these and I will post a separate thread and link here when the thread is complete.

    We hope that this helps to iron out some small issues, and please feel free to add to this thread.

    If you haven’t ordered a 130X yet don’t forget here; Blade 130X [BLH3780UK] [BNF] IN STOCK!

    And if you need spares we have stock arriving soon; 130X Spares

    Signing out the guys at RC Hero.



    Just another snippet from around here is the Gain's adjsutment guide;

    Blade 130x gyro gains, How to adjust.
    3-Axis Gyro Menu
    To Enter Programming Mode
    1. TX on throttle set to high (100%)
    2. Plug the flight battery into the helicopter.
    3. The Status LED will go solid blue, then there will be a sequence of Red, Green, and Blue Flashing LED’s
    4. The RED LED will now be solid and the status LED will be flashing.

    To change between axis use the Elevator stick.
    Red LED = Elevator
    Green LED = Aileron
    Blue LED = Rudder

    To change the gain value use the Aileron stick
    There are ten steps available in either direction, total of 20 gain values for each axis.
    The highest and lowest values are not high enough or low enough to cause not to be flyable. It adjusts
    the gain in a window only.
    Right Aileron increases the gain, the LED lights will start flashing faster.
    Left Aileron decreases the gain, the LED lights will start flashing slower.

    When the Axis LED is solid that is default value (neutral gain).

    To reset the settings to default
    Hold right rudder for 5 seconds while in programming mode, there will be a sequence of Red, Green and
    Blue flashing LED’s to signify the default settings have been applied.
    Rudder value must be at 100% travel for this to occur.
    To exit the menu.
    Simply just unplug the battery. Set the throttle to low throttle or throttle hold and re-plug in the
    battery.
    Last edited by kylelnsn; 20-07-2012, 10:59 AM.
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  • #2
    For reference the bearing thread is located here

    http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/e-flit...ring-kits.html
    Trex 700 DFC HV - Trex 550L DFC - 180CFX - Teksumo Night Flyer - DX9 & too much more...
    http://www.rc-hero.co.uk
    Models, Spares and Upgrades "Getting Bigger By Being Better"
    Check out our ratings at Trustpilot


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    • #3
      130X Up Rated Bearing Kit. Blade 130X upgrade kit. PREORDER
      Trex 700 DFC HV - Trex 550L DFC - 180CFX - Teksumo Night Flyer - DX9 & too much more...
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      • #4
        It's a bit un-nerving that this new machine already needs upgrades and modifications on release...

        I think I shall be waiting for a v2
        "Anger and Frustration bring the best out of my flying ability.. because generally I don't give a shit either if the machine hit's the deck or stay's in the air - both will accomplish satisfaction, but most of all it exerts the feeling of flying conservatively. - Callum"

        www.callumheli.co.uk

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        • #5
          Very hard to read that list then even think about hitting the 'Buy' button.

          All credit for pulling together all the comments posted elsewhere, but it really makes the case for waiting for V2 rather than dealing with all that on something that should be flying straight out of the box ...

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          • #6
            It does.

            I havent touched mine, and ive flown it till ive broken it.

            As with everything you can tinker with it to your hearts content
            NONE OF THE BELOW HELI'S ARE OWNED BY ME ANY MORE
            TT Raptor G4 + Vbar
            | MCPX V1 + HP05 Brushless & All the upgrades | 130x Stock | Henseleit TDR 2013 +Vbar | 450L DOMINATOR 6S + Mini Kbar | Logo 550SX +Vbar Mini
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mark_T View Post
              Very hard to read that list then even think about hitting the 'Buy' button.

              All credit for pulling together all the comments posted elsewhere, but it really makes the case for waiting for V2 rather than dealing with all that on something that should be flying straight out of the box ...
              I agree, and is the sole reason i cancelled my pre-order once i started seeing these same issues over the pond on release day.

              Not prepared to wste hard earned cash on something that is not fit for purpose out the box as advertised!

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              • #8
                No offence guys, but your all ridiculous.

                Anything can be improved! If you want a perfect, indestructible and faultless heli for £170 then I suggest you build one yourself, because otherwise its not going to happen

                I dont know how you can say its not fit for purpose when thousands of people have been flying them just fine.
                NONE OF THE BELOW HELI'S ARE OWNED BY ME ANY MORE
                TT Raptor G4 + Vbar
                | MCPX V1 + HP05 Brushless & All the upgrades | 130x Stock | Henseleit TDR 2013 +Vbar | 450L DOMINATOR 6S + Mini Kbar | Logo 550SX +Vbar Mini
                Proud wearer of the EGS award!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by callum View Post
                  It's a bit un-nerving that this new machine already needs upgrades and modifications on release...

                  I think I shall be waiting for a v2
                  None of it is needed! Ive had mine a day had 10 flight not a problem. Flys amazing so pleased
                  Trex 700E DFC Beast X, Trex 550 DFC Beast X, Msh Protos Beast X, Blade 130x

                  Flying for: Rcheliguru, Robbe UK and Spin Blades

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                  • #10
                    Its an absolute beast. I guess some have just been unlucky unfortunately. No issues with mine what so ever. People love to moan about new products... its just human nature. The thing will have limitations obviously... you just need to be realistic and be aware of them... plus £170 is bugger all really aint it?!? hardly expensive
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                    • #11
                      I understand all your concerns, and many we had too. BUT! with all this work complete this heli flies ridiculously well!

                      I am so impressed, I will next week attempt to get some videos of our chaps helis!

                      The bad reports stick in your mind more, you to look a little deeper and there are thousands of EXTREMELY happy customers who love this heli. I would say do not worry about pressing the buy button, you wont be disappointed! Its all fun at the end of the day!
                      Trex 700 DFC HV - Trex 550L DFC - 180CFX - Teksumo Night Flyer - DX9 & too much more...
                      http://www.rc-hero.co.uk
                      Models, Spares and Upgrades "Getting Bigger By Being Better"
                      Check out our ratings at Trustpilot


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                      • #12
                        £170??? See this link... Blade 130X [BLH3780UK] [BNF] IN STOCK!

                        Go on you know you want to!
                        Trex 700 DFC HV - Trex 550L DFC - 180CFX - Teksumo Night Flyer - DX9 & too much more...
                        http://www.rc-hero.co.uk
                        Models, Spares and Upgrades "Getting Bigger By Being Better"
                        Check out our ratings at Trustpilot


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kylelnsn View Post
                          £170??? See this link... Blade 130X [BLH3780UK] [BNF] IN STOCK!

                          Go on you know you want to!
                          nope BLADE 130X BNF - now in stock! guru is the cheapest ive sean !
                          Trex 700E DFC Beast X, Trex 550 DFC Beast X, Msh Protos Beast X, Blade 130x

                          Flying for: Rcheliguru, Robbe UK and Spin Blades

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Delarado View Post
                            No offence guys, but your all ridiculous.

                            Anything can be improved! If you want a perfect, indestructible and faultless heli for £170 then I suggest you build one yourself, because otherwise its not going to happen

                            I dont know how you can say its not fit for purpose when thousands of people have been flying them just fine.
                            Second that. There are issues with the tail on some of them, but they still fly very well. The price of the heli is low enough to not to expect perfect quality, but again, it flies well, so BnF promise is fulfilled.
                            Maintenance cost on this one will be high, but I'd not expect anything else (well, maybe a bit less costly parts) from high performance micro heli. These things are known to be money pits.
                            I have not done anything on that list btw. I have 18 flights now, and despite tail bearings being really sloppy it still flies all right.

                            p.s. sorry I've tightened main/tail blades
                            Last edited by AcidDrink; 21-07-2012, 12:14 PM.
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