now i'm confused

[sycomoto]

just built a trex 700n LE with a flybarless head, now it flys realy nicely apart from the tail wag. I've set everything up on the gear to gear on my DX7 and set the tail to 48% well in hh it wagged at a medeum rate from side to side so today i went up bit by bit to 60% and the wag got smaller but increased in frequancy. Now i'm a newbee so don't start ****ing yourself but am i going the wrong way on the gain. have i gone from wag to hunting. or could it just be its new and the dampers need to settle in.
I think i need a local club with heli flyers.

[horsham rc]

me need a club to.......

[millerman]

what electronics are you using and which fbl unit ? this will help determin your problem

[Eckchaz]

Need more info fella.. what FBL unit are you using?

[millerman]

Need more info fella.. what FBL unit are you using?

LOL great minds think alike

[Jamin_00]

How far out from the centre is the ball on the tail servo horn??


And yes, flying at a club has many advantages

[Vic.P]

Yep, need a bit more info .............But to hazzard a guess, i would say that your gain settings may need to be higher, many radios work with a range of 0-50% for rate mode and 50-100% for HH mode with 50% being zero gain. So for rate mode the smaller the figure the higher the gain and for HH the larger the figure the higher the gain.
so to have a gain for HH at the gyro of say around 75% you would need to dial in about 87% on the radio. and for the equivalent gain in rate mode you'd need to dial in around 12%.
If this is the case with your radio then your initial setting of 48% would give you next to no gain in rate mode and your 60% would only be about 20% in HH.
Hope this makes sense

[sycomoto]

still confused

i'm using the align 3g with the silicon mod. the senser is strapped down as well. the bit i'm struggling with is understanding the difference between a wag and hunting and what should be done once you define what its doing. am i right in thinking a wag is a slow left right oscalation which you'd increase the gain to eliminate and hunting is a fast oscilation that you'd decrease your gain for.
i'm using a dx7 set up via the gear-gear chanel where i'm guessing 0-100% is the amount of gain and 50% is mid point. do i set the gyro gain in rate mode to start with.

[Si_B]

Shouldn't have to set the gyro in rate mode. Using the gear channel, a figure of 40% would be a good starting point. I'm sure for the short time I had my 3g on, I had to drop it lower to stop oscillations in fast forward flight.

If you are still running your engine rich, this might show up as a wag on the tail.

Also, check everything is silky smooth on the tail, no loctite in any of the links on the pitch slider. It only takes a slight bind to cause issues.

[sycomoto]

watcha buddy

Shouldn't have to set the gyro in rate mode. Using the gear channel, a figure of 40% would be a good starting point. I'm sure for the short time I had my 3g on, I had to drop it lower to stop oscillations in fast forward flight.

If you are still running your engine rich, this might show up as a wag on the tail.

Also, check everything is silky smooth on the tail, no loctite in any of the links on the pitch slider. It only takes a slight bind to cause issues.

checked the tail and cant find any stickyness. The engine has been leaned out and is running nice if a little rich but the head speed seems about right. i'll drop the gains and give that ago. still don't know the difference between a wag and hunting though

[sycomoto]

aaar-ha

may have found the issue. I took all the tail rotor apart today and the small links to the blade holders seemed a bit tight. I took them appart and they seem smoother now plus i used a few drops of silicon oil on the shanks of the screws before loctiting back together. we'll have to see what happens when i fly it next.

[sycomoto]

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

still no better, flys like a bag of shite. I think its time to return it to the shop who set it up and club the guy to death with it