Flybar faulty or fair wear and tear ?

[callum]

Whats the point in continuing to flame?

We all know flybars can snap.. No point filling this thread with bullshit..

Whose ever flybar snapped... can PM me and I will replace. Since it seems like a big deal.

[Eckchaz]

I'm not taking sides Janek and I'm not condoning dumb thumb it's name calling or "PM to you".. you did blame it on "dumb thumb it" as, I quote "Sorry, it's not Aligns f**k up, I put the blame squarely on the builder/pilot " So having a dig at someones experience after there was eight previous posts about fatigue is provoking someone! Now you seem to have changed the facts and saying you originally mentioned fatigue, which you didnt??

Play nice guys.. If it was poor manufacturing or a common occurance.. who gives a sh1t.. buy another one for a few squid and get flying!!

[Eckchaz]

Erm.. started a reply (above) and went for a p1ss.. then posted and then seen Tims already done something simular! lol!

[dumb thumb it]

In no way was my post bashing align, i own and enjoy align heli's, and i an wise enough to know this can happen to any make of heli.....,lets all have a group hug and hope Janek finds somthing better to do.

Si

ive found somthing better for janek to do, i am going to book him 5 power w@nk1ng lessons 100% free of charge this may help him with relief.

[moyesboy]

Hmm, I've never snapped a flybar (450, 500 and 600n), and I've been known to straighten them sometimes.
Must be becuase of my regular precautionary maintenance program (ground induced).

I did once had the flybar slip to one extreme on my 500 when I must have failed to tighten the grub screws - the long flybar too. That was a bit wobbly -approx twice as wobbly as a snapped one I guess! It was easy enough to put it down in one piece.

Maybe itds all been said befor ein a thread I didn't yet read but...

If your flybar breaks due to fatigue often, then simply take the number of flights you had before it broke, half it and swap the flybar after that number of flights.

Where it breaks there will have been a crack develop. It will grow gradually with the flexing until it snaps. There will always be a discoloured bit where the crack existed and the exposed surface corroded, then a bright bit where it broke the rest of the way suddenly. The bright bit and the dark bit on the broken end doesn't necessarily mean there was a fault in the metal from new - there may have been but it might have occurred due to the flight stress.

Personally I'm not willing to pay for non distructive x ray testing of my flybars.

Wherever the stress direction changes from compression to tension and back, then fatigue is likely. Running a flybar with a slight bend in it will exaggerate the stress as it will be under unusual bending stress just in the hover before it starts doing 3d stuff.

[Janek]

Janek

You are never slow at putting the knife in wanting and provoking an argument at the first chance. That's a fact.

Stating in the original thread it was a build error is utter shite, we all know flybars break, it's nothing new but you did provoke an argument that's for sure.


[B][U]

Tim, you have made a valid point, I DID suggest in the original thread that it could have been a build fault, which was mainly a retort to the inflammatory thread title. It could still be true, but there is no way to validate that, and of all the possible causes it IS the least likely. For that I apologise.

However, it is NO EXCUSE for Alec, and his buddies, to start flaming someone because they happen to have a differing opinion of what is likely to have been the cause.

[Janek]

Alec didn't raise it again did he...

And WHY I raised this alternative thread is precisely because Alec choose to Private Message me with final flame.

I wouldn't normally publish a private message, but I will if it becomes necessary.

[Swashbuckler]

Man - winter sure breeds discontent.

[rachel]

And WHY I raised this alternative thread is precisely because Alec choose to Private Message me with final flame.

I wouldn't normally publish a private message, but I will if it becomes necessary.

please don't it wont help

from my impartial side of the fence i thought Janek's first post was a bit heavy but the reply was very rude too.

"two wrongs Don't make a right"

This isn't geting us anywhere and its going way off topic

please no mud slinging just agree you were both a little stressed (Male PMT ???? ) AND MOVE ON

HUGS TO YOU BOTH XXXXXXXXXXXX Rachel

[Paulice]

There are many things i can add to this topic, But i won't, other than there is a lot of flaming going on and that is not allowed here.

Rachel has offered "Handbags" for those involved, But i think we here are grown up enough not to need them!

Lets put an end to the bickering

[dumb thumb it]

hi

i tell you what put that pm up i dont care i stand by it, you dont seem to be liked much anyway ,this forun would be better off with out on it.

you are so full of utter rubbish , you start off saying it was builder/pilot error, now you have made your self look a prat you change your tune so fast.

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[BobJ]

OK this is very tongue in cheek but please don't stop, it's the most fun I have had for a while (yes I know I should get out more even if it's just to buy more pop corn:-)

And yes it is male PMT caused by on set of the winter blues, roll on spring.

Bob

There are many things i can add to this topic, But i won't, other than there is a lot of flaming going on and that is not allowed here.

Rachel has offered "Handbags" for those involved, But i think we here are grown up enough not to need them!

Lets put an end to the bickering

[Janek]

Alec, my Grandchildren are better behaved that you, and their ages range from 9months to 8 years

[dumb thumb it]

hello tit

this is what i pmed to janek and i stand by it




so ok you are right the bubble or flaw in the metal is all my fault i should have built the model better and flow it better, you prat know it all tit
some told me at a very large helicopter shop today that you where a tit so iam guessing thay are right

__________________

[rachel]

ok you have done it now I am on my way round


It's handbags at Dawn & I NEVER loose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!