Flybar faulty or fair wear and tear ?

[Janek]

Dumb Thumbed It decided to closed his inflammatory thread, but also decided to send a final name calling rant to me via Private Message. (I'll respect the "private" for now)

Well, Mr Dumb Thumbed It, my argument still stands, flybars can and do break, particularly if you're into 3D and hard stops.

When they break, it's generally because of metal fatigue, induced by the pilot doing his "moves"..........it's a fact of life, live with it. If it concerns you that much, carry spare flybars and paddles to the field, that way you'll not lose a flying session because of it.

I assume you're good enough to save a machine with half a flybar ?

[Mart61]

...wiggle the ring pull backwards and forwards often...

Sounds like Dale Winton's idea of a good night out!

[BobJ]

Hi Jan

I should be staying well clear of this but knowing how you like to get your teeth in to things I couldn't resist:-)

I will say that anything made by man can and will fail but I am sure 99.999999% of all fly bar failures are down to metal fatigue pure and simple, just due to the amount of flexing they do in flight, the harder you fly the sooner they snap.
My Rappy 50 used to eat them in about 20 flight, Wes used to kill them even quick as you know.

Cheers
Bob

[toetapper]

You seem to be very upset by this mr align....sorry Janek..., i was with Alec yesterday and you can clearly see the poor metal the flybar is made from as i got a very good look at the now exposed cross section, yes we all know flybars take alot of stress in flight etc etc,but in this case im sure its down to poor quality parts, also taking in to consideration how little flying the machine has done, so best you wind your friggin neck in,get off your high horse and shut your cake hole.

Do have a good afternoon.

Regards
Simon. x

Dumb Thumbed It decided to closed his inflammatory thread, but also decided to send a final name calling rant to me via Private Message. (I'll respect the "private" for now)

Well, Mr Dumb Thumbed It, my argument still stands, flybars can and do break, particularly if you're into 3D and hard stops.

When they break, it's generally because of metal fatigue, induced by the pilot doing his "moves"..........it's a fact of life, live with it. If it concerns you that much, carry spare flybars and paddles to the field, that way you'll not lose a flying session because of it.

I assume you're good enough to save a machine with half a flybar ?

[Brian Gifford]

:lurk5: Anyone for more?

[Paulo uk]

Mmmmmmm Popcorn....

[callum]

Look, This shit happens..

No point in bitching about it, Luckily it wasn't anything worse. Ask SqueakyPete all about Flybar Snapping

You can maintain a heli to great standards but things can and will still fail.

[dumb thumb it]

hi

ive been trying to take pictures of this but my cam and i phone will not go down to a 3mm flybar. but you can clearly see a flaw looks like a bubble on the fracture line. 5 people have seen this i can get every on to post on here. fact its not builder or pilot error as mr jane k says it is know it all.

[zoombolt]

I think Janek is simply an argument Troll. He also decided to have a public pop at me a little while ago, saying I was an irresponsible person because that's what 'he' decided that's what my Avitar said about me.

Come on, how can you blame an individual for metal breaking in flight!!

He's either a troll, or someone who still lives with mummy & this is the closest thing to excitement for him....

Go figure

P.S Janek, that's not really my backside.

[rachel]

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" so best you wind your friggin neck in,get off your high horse and shut your cake hole."

Blimey thats a bit harsh !any more of it and I will lend you a handbag to sort it right propper !!!!!!!

Come on boys go easy lets make it a fun discussion I work with metal all day and I know it can snap / fatigue , I also know it can be stressed by over tightened fasteners .

I have only one comment !

I am really jellous as I cant snap one even when I fly the ar*e off my 700 .

Hugs all

[Tim Procter]

Like BobJ I like to stay away from bitch fights but.!!!!!!!!

Janek

You are never slow at putting the knife in wanting and provoking an argument at the first chance. That's a fact.

Stating in the original thread it was a build error is utter shite, we all know flybars break, it's nothing new but you did provoke an argument that's for sure.


Alec.

Don't rise to the bait, you have been here long enough to know by now.

FWIW it's not just Aligns that break flybars either, I have seen it happen on various makes of helicopters.

Chill folks, this place doesnt need this shit.

[dumb thumb it]

Sounds like Dale Winton's idea of a good night out!

that be funny pmsl

[Janek]

You seem to be very upset by this mr align....sorry Janek..., i was with Alec yesterday and you can clearly see the poor metal the flybar is made from as i got a very good look at the now exposed cross section, yes we all know flybars take alot of stress in flight etc etc,but in this case im sure its down to poor quality parts, also taking in to consideration how little flying the machine has done, so best you wind your friggin neck in,get off your high horse and shut your cake hole.

Do have a good afternoon.

Regards
Simon. x

Simon, you unfortunately spoilt what was quite a good, well thought out response, but you spoilt your argument with your last sentence, where you too resorted to flaming.

I have seen someone at our field, within the last couple of months, break 2 flybars on the same machine (Trex 600 Nitro), on the same day. He'd spent his whole day practising tick tocks, not very well.

He was surprised at the first break (a bit like you guys), but when the process was explained to him, he understood. He just replaced the parts, and carried on flying.

Simon, I assume you're a metalurgist ?, or have at least seen steel fatigue fractures before ?

[toetapper]

In no way was my post bashing align, i own and enjoy align heli's, and i am wise enough to know this can happen to any make of heli.....,lets all have a group hug and hope Janek finds somthing better to do.

Si

Like BobJ I like to stay away from bitch fights but.!!!!!!!!

Janek

You are never slow at putting the knife in wanting and provoking an argument at the first chance. That's a fact.

Stating in the original thread it was a build error is utter shite, we all know flybars break, it's nothing new but you did provoke an argument that's for sure.


Alec.

Don't rise to the bait, you have been here long enough to know by now.

FWIW it's not just Aligns that break flybars either, I have seen it happen on various makes of helicopters.

Chill folks, this place doesnt need this shit.

[zoombolt]

I agree with you absolutley busterboy. I also recognise the fact that Alec CLOSED the last thread to kill the bitching dead.

Alec didn't raise it again did he...