Why not Apple?

[Paulig]

Why is apple not supported from the ground up? Forget Bootcamp. It tires me that Phoenix just can't be bothered. Fact. Apple has become one of the leading electronics company's on earth. I'm sure most people reading this thread including Phoenix are holding a apple product? So why?

[danch]

Laziness ?

[paulsouthport]

Because a TX sticks will cause unsightly lumps in the side of an Apple users manbag.

[Disc]

Okay this I think I can answer

Phoenix uses Direct X GFX and to Port to Mac is a royal pain in the ASS.

If they had used Opengl for the gfx the programming is actually easier because OSX supports Opengl

Its down the Graphics engine basically


Now if you've had a Mac long enough I mean Way back in the days of PPC we used to get games converted but the main issues were only big titles and then it takes a bloody age like a year to make it opengl gfx, the re-coding is a nightmare for the companies involved.

The reason why Aerofly is OSX native is because its opengl and was easy to convert if you look at it basically its quite a lazy conversion, menus are wrong and won't open in its own window BUT it is OSX Native shame its a shabby conversion.

And Direct X GFX is 99% of the reasons why Macs do not see many games converted for it, the market for games was never big and Mac gamers always treated 2nd rate.

[paulsouthport]

.... but, actually it's because you more than double your dev costs and support costs, have to maintain 2 very different code bases and support 2 very different user bases, all for a relatively small increase of revenue. All this while it will run quite happily via Bootcamp or Parallels.

[LaurenceGough]

Direct X
DirectX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Disc]

OpenGl

OpenGL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[callum]

... And this will carry on for a long time, Why? Simple... More demand for Windows Platform release, As Windows/PC is the dominate leader.

[LaurenceGough]

OpenGl

OpenGL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phoenix requires Direct X to run like most games do today and I don't think it's a simple process to convert over.

[NEON ROTORS]

because apple products are made and ran by aliens . aliens dont use tx s to fly thier rc helis they fly them teleconeticly

[r4nd0m]

directx isnt an issue really but the "dongle" driver is - there have been many attempts to "port" phoenix via wine for example all failed due to the fact that the interaction to the usb device was not in place and as there are no sources available those cant be emulated or forwarded properly

in regards of why they dont supply a mac version, as others did say already development costs and I think there is no necessity thanks to bootcamp, vmware and parallels - a simple excuse not to support a certain operating system ...

interestingly though there are projects that either support OSX already or that tend to support OSX in future - so its a question of the user really which sim he uses ... I know a few who are quite happy with the feature set other sims offer ...

[Zeeflyboy]

Personally for me it will probably lose them my business... Not that they'll notice as I already bought it and the updates are free so there's nothing further for me to buy lol.

I don't like having to boot into bootcamp and parallels doesn't offer the same performance... Plus I'd rather not run windows at all if I don't need to. I will have a small netbook that can do all my other rc software, but obviously lacks the grunt for phoenix.

I was going to just bite the bullet and get Aerofly, but that new sim coming out in the next year that was posted a while back peaked my interest.

[r4nd0m]

I was going to just bite the bullet and get Aerofly, but that new sim coming out in the next year that was posted a while back peaked my interest.

time remaining: 397days - outMotion

[Zeeflyboy]

Bloody hell, that's like watching a kettle boil lol...

It's a long way away unfortunately....

[Disc]

Phoenix requires Direct X to run like most games do today and I don't think it's a simple process to convert over.

correct converting from direct X to opengl will be the biggest issue always

it takes ages to convert from one to the other.