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    Ok so I am a complete Noob, I cash out on Phoenix and when I jump on it all I do is fly around like crazy because it’s fun. I have tried a few of the balloon popping modes which seem pointless and I have watched a few of the tutorial videos which are very difficult to translate into what I need to do with the sticks under my thumbs…….

    Is there a better way to use Phoenix? How do I LEARN to do the basic stuff like hovering, orientation, circuits ect…..
    Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

  • #2
    every time i go on phoenix i try and make myself hover and practise but always end up messing about trying to do 3d

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jamiew12 View Post
      every time i go on phoenix i try and make myself hover and practise but always end up messing about trying to do 3d
      Exactly however I've also fired up my mcpx and well that's a whole different story so I need a few tips on the Sim so I can try apply them to actual flying
      Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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      • #4
        Hi Charles,
        You just need to stick to the basics to start with, when i go on Phoenix i always try to fly within my level of capability until temptation takes over, ten i fly like a mad man out of control!
        Try starting with basic hovering & moving the heli forwards & backwards & from side to side, once you have that in the bag, then try some lazy 8's slowly turning the heli at about 45 degrees in each direction until you can turn it fully side on & pass in front of you, then try some slow circuits & try to maintain height.
        It can be boring sometimes flying sensibly, but long term it will make you a better flyer! that said there's nothing wrong with pushing the limits & learning some 'sim 3D' which we all dare try because it costs nothing if you crash!

        Good luck
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        • #5
          The sim is too easy to just mess about with, you have to set your self goals to use it as a training aid, I find I can only have 30min spells on it before I start messing about so after 30 mins I take a break from it. you should learn to hover over one spot to start with, then in different orientations, then controlled moving the heli to one side and then the other moving onto figure eights and circuits. if you see what is required for your bmfa certificate and work towards flying to that standard.
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          • #6
            You have gone into the "Training" menu and done all the facing left, right, tail in, nose in parts I assume ? Following that, do as Dan says and hover practice without any hard limitations, just concentrate on getting the brain to thumb moves as instinctive as possible for 10 / 15 minutes at a time. Then before boredom or frustration gets a hold, thrash the b*gger all over the sky till you fall out of your chair laughing. I'm no great Feenix fan, but it's a great fun thing and defo good for upping your learning curve.
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            Brains and thumbs work okay, but not at the same time.

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            • #7
              So the question is why are these tips not part of the Phoenix setup as a learning tool. Yes I have seen the training videos i.e. how to fly in a circle but they seem very limited and difficult to apply when you try it yourself.

              I did catch up with an mate over multiplayer and Skype and he showed me so much more than I what I can imagine myself doing. I see there is a recording tool, is there a user library that is useful to use?
              Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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              • #8
                I got Pheonix too and it served me well especially learning nose in. I have same problem too.....10 mins and get bored so start flyin like a loony.
                You're brain (cell! ) does sub-consciously try to work out patterns between what your hands are doing and your eyes are seeing so even messing about in the virtual sky does do some good........did that sound good!!! ..........god, i'm full o' s**t sometimes

                Keep at it but rest assured, ain't no sim time gonna get the adrenalin goin like watchin you're hard earned cash floatin round the sky!! (need some music in the background...theme to the Dambusters!!)
                Last edited by v2kdj; 17-02-2012, 09:25 PM.
                Cheers all.....Karl...

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                • #9
                  chadrg.com
                  Be consistent and honest, train every day and don't think you can fly a move if you cant do it in your sleep (well almost .
                  Have fun.
                  Michal

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                  • #10
                    Ha ha agreed flown my mcpx twice indoors and it's a different story when a crash will cost £££
                    Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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                    • #11
                      Ok how do u do an inverted hover on the sim? Yes I am just messing around after my diligent noob training but please can somebody explain it to me
                      Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gecko501 View Post
                        Ok how do u do an inverted hover on the sim? Yes I am just messing around after my diligent noob training but please can somebody explain it to me
                        IU1 with "v" curve of collective and you good to go. That mean if you are inverted and want to climb, you pit throttle in negative. Middle stick 0 pitch
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gecko501 View Post
                          So the question is why are these tips not part of the Phoenix setup as a learning tool. Yes I have seen the training videos i.e. how to fly in a circle but they seem very limited and difficult to apply when you try it yourself.

                          I did catch up with an mate over multiplayer and Skype and he showed me so much more than I what I can imagine myself doing. I see there is a recording tool, is there a user library that is useful to use?
                          so just seen this thread which answers my own question - http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/phoeni...uning-com.html
                          Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nitros View Post
                            IU1 with "v" curve of collective and you good to go. That mean if you are inverted and want to climb, you pit throttle in negative. Middle stick 0 pitch
                            hmm do you need to flick the TX into stunt mode and make changes to the setting in phoenix i dont think the default settings have this so anyone have a "How to" link?
                            Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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