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    Hi Guys dare say a few of you have tried/done this with heli's at the field well i am a coward! Look at it from this view point why initiate a crash condition i'e auto when you may as well save your cash till a crash is iminent then try your luck... Bin doin auto's for the past hour on the sim "PHOENIX" and just wondered how realistic they are to doing it with your own heli... Ok guys give it to me straight"i'm a man i can take it " lol
    Regards Steve

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    I personally feel as long as the model is setup correctly and you are into wind,the model is easier than the sim


    But the model takes no prisoners if you fluff it,i have always found sims hard to auto well due to the lack of perspective

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    • #3
      The sim is easier, gain a good height (100ft or so) and head into wind. Try to keep it slightly nose down and say 1 degree of -. IThen flare out gently at the bottom. If you can do it on the sim, you can do it for real, just be ready with your throttle hold switch!!!!!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Raptor50luvver View Post
        I personally feel as long as the model is setup correctly and you are into wind,the model is easier than the sim


        But the model takes no prisoners if you fluff it,i have always found sims hard to auto well due to the lack of perspective
        Well looks like then one day its my model and my nerve for the testing then.

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        • #5
          If you fluff an auto and lose excessive headspeed and try to re engage drive too late the model will piro under torque into the ground

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          • #6
            As useful as sims are,i find the 2d image to be a hidrance on certain things

            Its what you are used to i suppose though

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            • #7
              Hi Guys thanks for the input so far i have a good landing to crash ratio on the sim and can fly around hit throttle hold and position heli fairly well allthough i must admit cant quit put it where i want it lol
              Steve
              Last edited by Raptormadsteve; 13-05-2007, 09:19 PM.

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              • #8
                same here but on the sim you have no periferal vision so you have to judge(guess) where the ground is till the last few seconds
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                • #9
                  anyone else notice that in the auto training on phoenix the wind readout rwads zero (despite what you set in setup) - but I think the wind is still there...
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                  • #10
                    I find Phoenix is easier than real the thing, I do big autos with my real Raptor 50 and the flair (hang time before blade speed bleeds off) is not as long as it is on phoenix
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                    • #11
                      The hang time on a Raptor is a joke. You could make a cup of tea and change a couple of bearings in an OS 50 by the time you need to put it down.

                      The knight is more accurate I rekon, although Autos in general are not correct in my opinion. I spoke with Ade about this and he said they are being re-workd for the next version of Phoenix.
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                      • #12
                        Hi Richie i have been using rex 600 and not very tolerant of a steap decent but shallow almost flat and its no problem turns well reacts well Just want to decide what model on there is the most accurate for a raptor 50.. Thats what i'll be using what do you guys think?
                        Steve

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                        • #13
                          i find the knight 50 on phoenix to behave very similarly to my raptor titan. they are easy steve, once your happy on the sim, just try a few gentle ones starting at a few feet with a little forward motion, then build it up. They have saved my bacon a fair few times!

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                          • #14
                            Hi Jamie thanks mate i can do chicken auto's upto about 10 feet but above that the crash gets expensive and as i only run os have never ever needed to do an auto So now i think lets do it for a giggle after all got a brand new rex 600 sittin here doin nowt and if i kill the raptor i have an excuss to get the rex out Do i need an excuss though!
                            Steve

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Raptormadsteve View Post
                              Hi Jamie thanks mate i can do chicken auto's upto about 10 feet but above that the crash gets expensive and as i only run os have never ever needed to do an auto So now i think lets do it for a giggle after all got a brand new rex 600 sittin here doin nowt and if i kill the raptor i have an excuss to get the rex out Do i need an excuss though!
                              Steve
                              what blades you using steve?
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