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  • #16
    Brilliant

    Originally posted by bolders View Post
    Thought I would post a how to on setting up a DX6i in Heli mode in phoenix. This setup will allow the use of throttle hold and IU using the same switches as you would use for your real halicopter. Pitch Curves, Throttle Curves and D/R & Expo can also be setup to how you configure your real heli. It is important that you follow the sequence in order for the calibration to work correctly in Phoenix.
    To make reading easier the DX6i Menu items are in BOLD, Lists that are found within menus are RED and values associated with the list items are GREEN.

    There may appear to be a lot of steps here but it really doesnt take that long


    1.) Choose an empty slot from the MODEL SELECT menu on the DX6i

    GOTO SETUP LIST

    2.) Scroll down to COPY/RESET and reset the memory for that model

    3.) Scroll to MODEL TYPE and set model to HELI

    4.) Scroll down to the REVERSE menu and check that all channels are set to N (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

    5.) Scroll down to the SWASH TYPE menu and check that it is set to 1SERVO90 (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

    GOTO ADJUST LIST

    6.) Scroll down to the D/R&EXPO menu and check AILE, ELEV and RUDD are set to 100% and EXPO is set to INH for all 3 channels (this can be re-set to the desired levels later)

    7.) Scroll down to the TRAVEL ADJ menu and check that all values are set to 100% in both directions (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

    8.) Scroll down to the SUB TRIM menu and check that all values are set to 0 (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

    9.) Scroll down to GYRO menu set SW to GYRO. Set position 0 to 0% and set position 1 to 100%.

    10) Scroll down to THRO CUR menu and check that NORM is set to 0,25,50,75,100 and HOLD is set to 0. Change all points of STUNT to 100% i.e. a flat line.

    11.) Scroll down to PITC CUR menu and check that NORM, STUNT and HOLD are set to 0,25,50,75,100 (NORM will be changed after calibrating in Phoenix).

    12.) Check that MIX1, MIX2 and set to INH and REVO MIX values are all set to 0

    PHOENIX CONTROL ASSIGNMENTS

    13.) Go into Phoenix and select SYSTEM/ YOUR CONTROLS from the top menu. Scroll down to the Spektrum list, highlight the DX6/DX6i option and then click the edit button.

    14.) Set the controls up as per the attached image (ensure the detailed controls box is selected at the top of the window and take note of which controls are inverted). You should find that the default controls are the same. The only difference in the image compared to the Phoenix default is that I have the govener mapped to the FLAP/GYRO switch of the DX6i so I can disable the govener on electric helis.
    If you chose to make a change to the default controls Phoenix will pop up a warning window telling you that you cannot change the default settings and it will make a copy. Once you have made any desired changes click finish and close the YOUR CONTROLS window.


    PHOENIX CALIBRATION

    15.) Turn all switches on the DX6i to off and adjust the throttle/pitch so it is at mid stick.

    16.) Select SYSTEM/ YOUR Transmitter from the top menu in Phoenix. Click the calibrate button on the popup window that appears and then click next on all the subsequent windows until you reach the window that asks you to move all sticks to their extents.

    17.) Move all sticks to all extents and toggle the FLAP/GYRO switch on and off.

    18.) Re-centre all sticks and set all switches to off. The orange bars fo channels 1,2,3,4 & 6 should all be centred. channel 5 should be off.

    19.) Move the throttle up - Channel 1 should increase and channel 6 should decrease.

    20.) Move each stick to its extent - the yellow bar should be at the top when the stick is at one extent and at teh bottom for the other extent.

    21.) Click the GYRO/FLAP switch down - There should be a full orange bar. The bar should dissapear when the switch is flicked back up.

    22.) Keep clicking next button and then finish button when it appears. Phoenix should now be fully working with the DX6i correctly.

    FINE TUNING


    Now the calibration is done DR rates and Pitch and throttle curves can be set to the desired values (it is important this is done after the calibration !!)
    For example I set my normal throttle curve to 0,40,85,85,58 and my normal pitch curve to 40,43,50,75,100 to match the settings I use on my blade 400.

    I aslo set DR to 80% for AILE, ELEV and RUDD at positon 0 and 100% for position 1.

    NOTE: If you do reset your T&P and DR rates you will need to set them back to the defaults stated in section 10 & 11 above if you have to re-calibrate. I have not yet had the need to recalibrate though so this should generally not be a problem.
    .......


    Finally ...someone who believes that stuff should work right and that humans should not accept otherwise.....I've been flying phoenix in acro mode for ages ...and quite frankly ...it sucks ....no control over pitch and throttle curves on my tx due to acro .....so hats off to you for such a brilliant post ....this post should be revived ....

    Your a genius.

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    • #17
      Thank You Thank You Have just set up my DX6i to your info for the Sim and and it flies beautifully, Before it was darting about like a rat on a bad acid trip!
      Thanks once again ATB John.

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      • #18
        Hi Im glad you both got the settings to work for you and they have proven to be useful
        Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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        • #19
          it needs sticky'ing in the phoenix section
          Ron

          hobby-hangar.co.uk
          SWRCH-GO big or Go home!
          http://www.ultimatebuildandfly.co.uk/

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          • #20
            awesome post bolders. just picked up an MCPX and phoenix - been playing around on it all morning thanks to you!
            NONE OF THE BELOW HELI'S ARE OWNED BY ME ANY MORE
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Boggy View Post
              it needs sticky'ing in the phoenix section
              I will copy and paste the contents into a new post and ask Stuart nicely to sticky it.

              I will also add another guide when I get a new radio which is likely to either be a DSX9 or a DX8
              Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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              • #22
                Yep, done all that but FEENX doesn't recognise the two toggle swiches at all. So I'm still stuck with having to try advanced settings and all that does is **** up most of the other ones already set satisfactorily. Bum !
                Trex 450 SEV2.
                Trex 450 SEV2, hack, freeby, but getting expensive. Binned the bu**er !
                Trex 550 V2. Adrenalin ( brown kind )
                mCPX, better than a Phoenix anyday.
                Several planks, gathering dust.

                Brains and thumbs work okay, but not at the same time.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cagey View Post
                  Yep, done all that but FEENX doesn't recognise the two toggle swiches at all. So I'm still stuck with having to try advanced settings and all that does is **** up most of the other ones already set satisfactorily. Bum !
                  Phoenix is not actually detecting your gear/IU switch. It is done in the radio to select how the throttle and pitch channel is output to Phoenix.

                  If you can wait till tomorrow you are welcome to give me a call after work to talk you through some settings etc to see if we can find where the fault is. Ill pm you my number
                  Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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                  • #24
                    Hi Bolders, I have followed the guide and I cant seem to get my Blade 500 off the ground. Just does not seem to be enough power. Im a newbie and could do with some help if poss
                    Blade 130x
                    Blade MCPx
                    DX7S

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ShaggyRS6 View Post
                      Hi Bolders, I have followed the guide and I cant seem to get my Blade 500 off the ground. Just does not seem to be enough power. Im a newbie and could do with some help if poss
                      Hi Mate

                      yea thats no problem but will be easier over the phone. I will pm you my number and we can have a chat over the weekend if you are free
                      Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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                      • #26
                        Ok thanks mate, I do have rich coming around tomorrow, if he cant sort it I will give you a call. thanks very much
                        Blade 130x
                        Blade MCPx
                        DX7S

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                        • #27
                          Hi guys, superb bit of info there on setting up a dx6i, I got my sim today and my IU mode switch won't work, pressing key "3" ain't right'
                          Gonna go through setup again with this gem in mind..

                          Gotta say this pheonix v3 is worth it just for getting some instinct with my dumb thumbs! )

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                          • #28
                            Its a great tool. There its another thread that I started that gives info on making the settings more realistic. Have a search....

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                            Blade 130x
                            Blade MCPx
                            DX7S

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 0151coogy101 View Post
                              Hi guys, superb bit of info there on setting up a dx6i, I got my sim today and my IU mode switch won't work, pressing key "3" ain't right'
                              Gonna go through setup again with this gem in mind..

                              Gotta say this pheonix v3 is worth it just for getting some instinct with my dumb thumbs! )
                              Hi, I had the same issue and this post was very good, sounds like you need to amend up your IU throttle curve on your TX. I believe the default IU curve is the same and the normal curve. ie: make sure normal throttle curve starts at zero and IU curve (aka stunt curve on the DX6i) is either 100% or a "V" curve. good luck
                              Charles - Align 500EFL Pro - Blade 130x - Blade mCPx v2 - Spektrum DX6i & Phoenix Sim

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by bolders View Post
                                Phoenix is not actually detecting your gear/IU switch. It is done in the radio to select how the throttle and pitch channel is output to Phoenix.

                                If you can wait till tomorrow you are welcome to give me a call after work to talk you through some settings etc to see if we can find where the fault is. Ill pm you my number

                                I can't seem to get my DX6i to recognize at all? Help?

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