DX6i and Phoenix

[coptermanic]

Have just snatched the DX6i from my son to do a bit of heli-training, and the idle up switch is not initiating stunt mode. It used too, and I've had the back off and the switch works fine. Must be in the setup of the TX. Any ideas???????

[wildc4rd]

Stupid question, is it set up/calibrated corectly in Phoenix?

[coptermanic]

Well yes it was, and I have changed nothing. I have recalibrated it as per the instructions.

[wildc4rd]

Then I guess you need to check the pitch/throttle curves for the model you use to fly the sim, if they are fine, well, pass, lol.

[bolders]

Are you using your DX6i in ACRO or HELI mode in phoenix.

If you are using HELI mode what pitch and throttle curves are you using.

You have to be a bit careful when calibrating in phoenix if you have got pitch and throttle curves that are not linear set in your DX6i.

Also when you performed the calibration what pitch and throttle curve were you using at teh time and are all other functions of the transmitter working correctly.

This is likely to be a small step missed somwhere in the setup - assuming your DX6i is functioning correctly - so should be able to get it working again by going through it step by step

[coptermanic]

Are you using your DX6i in ACRO or HELI mode in phoenix.



If you are using HELI mode what pitch and throttle curves are you using.



You have to be a bit careful when calibrating in phoenix if you have got pitch and throttle curves that are not linear set in your DX6i.

Also when you performed the calibration what pitch and throttle curve were you using at teh time and are all other functions of the transmitter working correctly

Using it in HELI

The preloaded DX6i curves in the program

All bits working OK

[bolders]

OK my first guess if you are using default DX6i setings is that your throttel and pitch curves for both normal and IU are teh same.

Ive just rest a model and set to heli and now all T & P curves are 0,25,50,75,100

Can you check your throttle hold also - is it working ?

Got to have dinner in a bit but if you are still around afterwards im happy to go into phoenix and try to help you out via the messaging window

[coptermanic]

Yes, thanks for the advice. Am ****ed with it now, so I will try again tomorrow. Not been a good heli day today. mSR behaving oddly. Cannot get the retracts working on my A109, and now this sim!!!!!

[msssltd]

I am pretty sure the idle up switch does not work in Phoenix when the DX6 is in Heli mode. Put the DX6 in Acro mode, recalibrate and idle up should start working. Other things may stop working though.

[bolders]

I am pretty sure the idle up switch does not work in Phoenix when the DX6 is in Heli mode. Put the DX6 in Acro mode, recalibrate and idle up should start working. Other things may stop working though.

It can work with a bit of jiggery pokery but there are certain things that you need to be aware of when setting up and calibrating

I have got it working and managed to talk satch through the setup also

[ChrisP]

I had a similar problem with my JR. I do not own a DX6i, but should be similar

In idle up, set your throttle curve to 100,100,100. (straight line)

To set up throttle hold, you have to switch it on. This is usually in the model setup menu (where you hold a button when switching the Tx on) and change INH to ACT or similar.

Hope this helps

[bolders]

Thought I would post a how to on setting up a DX6i in Heli mode in phoenix. This setup will allow the use of throttle hold and IU using the same switches as you would use for your real halicopter. Pitch Curves, Throttle Curves and D/R & Expo can also be setup to how you configure your real heli. It is important that you follow the sequence in order for the calibration to work correctly in Phoenix.
To make reading easier the DX6i Menu items are in BOLD, Lists that are found within menus are RED and values associated with the list items are GREEN.

There may appear to be a lot of steps here but it really doesnt take that long


1.) Choose an empty slot from the MODEL SELECT menu on the DX6i

GOTO SETUP LIST

2.) Scroll down to COPY/RESET and reset the memory for that model

3.) Scroll to MODEL TYPE and set model to HELI

4.) Scroll down to the REVERSE menu and check that all channels are set to N (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

5.) Scroll down to the SWASH TYPE menu and check that it is set to 1SERVO90 (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

GOTO ADJUST LIST

6.) Scroll down to the D/R&EXPO menu and check AILE, ELEV and RUDD are set to 100% and EXPO is set to INH for all 3 channels (this can be re-set to the desired levels later)

7.) Scroll down to the TRAVEL ADJ menu and check that all values are set to 100% in both directions (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

8.) Scroll down to the SUB TRIM menu and check that all values are set to 0 (this should be the case after resetting the model in step 2)

9.) Scroll down to GYRO menu set SW to GYRO. Set position 0 to 0% and set position 1 to 100%.

10) Scroll down to THRO CUR menu and check that NORM is set to 0,25,50,75,100 and HOLD is set to 0. Change all points of STUNT to 100% i.e. a flat line.

11.) Scroll down to PITC CUR menu and check that NORM, STUNT and HOLD are set to 0,25,50,75,100 (NORM will be changed after calibrating in Phoenix).

12.) Check that MIX1, MIX2 and set to INH and REVO MIX values are all set to 0

PHOENIX CONTROL ASSIGNMENTS

13.) Go into Phoenix and select SYSTEM/ YOUR CONTROLS from the top menu. Scroll down to the Spektrum list, highlight the DX6/DX6i option and then click the edit button.

14.) Set the controls up as per the attached image (ensure the detailed controls box is selected at the top of the window and take note of which controls are inverted). You should find that the default controls are the same. The only difference in the image compared to the Phoenix default is that I have the govener mapped to the FLAP/GYRO switch of the DX6i so I can disable the govener on electric helis.
If you chose to make a change to the default controls Phoenix will pop up a warning window telling you that you cannot change the default settings and it will make a copy. Once you have made any desired changes click finish and close the YOUR CONTROLS window.


PHOENIX CALIBRATION

15.) Turn all switches on the DX6i to off and adjust the throttle/pitch so it is at mid stick.

16.) Select SYSTEM/ YOUR Transmitter from the top menu in Phoenix. Click the calibrate button on the popup window that appears and then click next on all the subsequent windows until you reach the window that asks you to move all sticks to their extents.

17.) Move all sticks to all extents and toggle the FLAP/GYRO switch on and off.

18.) Re-centre all sticks and set all switches to off. The orange bars fo channels 1,2,3,4 & 6 should all be centred. channel 5 should be off.

19.) Move the throttle up - Channel 1 should increase and channel 6 should decrease.

20.) Move each stick to its extent - the yellow bar should be at the top when the stick is at one extent and at teh bottom for the other extent.

21.) Click the GYRO/FLAP switch down - There should be a full orange bar. The bar should dissapear when the switch is flicked back up.

22.) Keep clicking next button and then finish button when it appears. Phoenix should now be fully working with the DX6i correctly.

FINE TUNING

Now the calibration is done DR rates and Pitch and throttle curves can be set to the desired values (it is important this is done after the calibration !!)
For example I set my normal throttle curve to 0,40,85,85,85 and my normal pitch curve to 40,43,50,75,100 to match the settings I use on my blade 400.

I aslo set DR to 80% for AILE, ELEV and RUDD at positon 0 and 100% for position 1.

NOTE: If you do reset your T&P and DR rates you will need to set them back to the defaults stated in section 10 & 11 above if you have to re-calibrate. I have not yet had the need to recalibrate though so this should generally not be a problem.

[Brian Gifford]

Nice post!

[MartinH]

Can someone set bolders post as a sticky.

[Boggy]

ive added a link to it from the sticky in the blade400 forum.

nice post bolders