Phoenix Version 2 !!!!!:)

[Bigbellypopper]

Hi All

Looks like a completely revamped version of Phoenix is on its way...


http://www.phoenix-sim.com/news.htm

[Tom Burgess]

cool, cant wait

[heliTV]

Me too - one thing I picked up:-

Selectable training undercarriage option for all helicopter models

I'll upgrade for that alone!

When will it be available?

[Balders]

haven't checked the link so sorry if it's already stated, but is it a free upgrade or paid?

[andylinney]

How good does that sound!

Can't wait

[steelie600]

sweet about time


wondered why it had gone quiet for updates

[moyesboy]

Sounds great.
I wonder if it will still run decently well without any hardware upgrade on my PC.
I hope we still get this wouthout paying extra.

Flying on top of the recording sounds interesting.

Sometimes I wonder if I want the model to just make a crashing sound and then carry on undamaged. Phoenix doesn't have an "uncrashable" mode does it? It might be better for my 4 year old son if it did

[heliTV]

I reckon it will end up being a paid-for update - i think there's too many new bits for anything else. more power to them if they offer it free or for a nominal charge though... Could be a while coming if its in Beta test now.

I wonder if it will be a public beta so anyone can have a go, and if so, will it mess up version 1??

[brin]

would be great if it had a choice of decal as well as helis

[Smoothound]

It says something about public beta on the site. It would be preferred if it was a separate install but I expect it will be an update.

Just wish they'd fix the networking so anyone can host/create a session...

[scallybert]

I reckon it will end up being a paid-for update

I can only wonder how that would work with the dongles.

[Smoothound]

I can only wonder how that would work with the dongles.

Simple.

Once it's GM you buy a new dongle

[scallybert]

Simple.

Once it's GM you buy a new dongle

[Think I've missed your joke.]

My thinking is that a 'paid for' new version will require a different dongle.

An upgrade to a different dongle means you'd have to get your old one swapped for a new one. [Otherwise you'd still have the old one, so effectively have 2 licences - though one is for V1.] That will be tedious and expensive to implement.

Otherwise you'd be paying full price for the new version - which seems a bit steep.

Seems to me that the only sensible thing is for a free upgrade

[Smoothound]

Once the beta goes Golden Master you buy a new dongle to be able to use the finalised product. New users pay full price, current users get a new dongle at a discounted rate.

The new dongle will have different firmware so it will only work with the new version. Yes you will have 2 versions but 1 will be old and have a dongle and one will be new with a dongle. It could even be a dongle for the dongle to stop you selling your old copy. It's not that hard to do

[Andy from Sandy]

It is unfortunate that Phoenix will probably have to produce a new dongle as Smoothound states. They will know that many users will buy a copy and simply copy it for their friends if it works with the original dongle. But this will knock the profit margin and so any thoughts of a cheap upgrade are lost in the battle against the thieves out there.