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[quote=Boggy;527470]i respect you views Ashley:D[/quote]
I respect your view of Ashleys views.
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I share the same opinion as Richard Dawkins. Faith is all good, as long as it is your OWN faith. Trouble is that 99% of the time it's not. You don't wake up on day and think "hey, I want to know why the earth is like it is - I know, but must be some greater being". No you think that because it was spoon fed to you at Sunday school and by your parents. It is not your faith - you only because everyone else does.
Now I'll admit, I'm 100% aethiest. I do not believe in God. End of. You can say the same about science. I am not a particle scientist or and an astrophysist - I believe what I am told through text books. Just like I saifd about religion, I did not work this out for myself, I believe what I have been told.
A contradiction you say? Not at all. As Dawkins said, show me 1% of the facts science is able to provide and I will change my mind about the skapegoat that is religion.
I'm so gonna **** a lot of people off for that post, apologies. My opinion ^
Come on, how do we know these are really Steven Hawking thoughts on this subject, he would make the perfect puppet wouldn't he, anyone could be behind what are claimed to be his views, I just cannot take this Stephan "no it all" Hawkings geezer seriously, just look at the poor fella.
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I personally couldnt care if these arnt his thoughts the reason I posted was to open a discussion which I am very interested in, I like to hear other peoples views. Also he has never claimed to know it all.
I understand the condition he has but that hasnt jolted his passion for knowledge and understanding of the universe and neither has it made me sceptical of what he says, I respect his views.
Inside that "vegetable" is a unique mind, he has more knowledge in his nail than I will ever know in my lifetime, if that makes sence.
Please keep on topic.
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is stephen hawkins not a victim of his own intelect? to discount "god" because science can prove the start of the universe was indeed physics is rather arrogant. i think most of us know there are no big golden gates above the clouds,so does this mean it does not exist?
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[quote=Kozmyk;527579]There are still no proofs, only theories.
Heck they still don't know what causes gravity.
There's a [B]Long[/B] way to go yet ...[/quote]
And therein lies the problem.
Religion steps in and says "oh well, there must be a god. We can't know so there has to be a greater being".
I am biased too I have to admit. I find science and technology fascinating. I love knowing how things work and building - a huge reason why I like RC helicopters. Religion doesn't interest me in the slightest. A fact of life based on a book written by people 2000 years ago, who were probably writing a science fiction novel? No thanks :D
there's documented faiths .... christianity, muslim, hindu, budhism etc etc which revolve around gods, creation of man in his image blah blah.
Just imagine what god looked like 65 million years earlier...... bit of an ugly git by all accounts, got it so wrong he threw a wobbler (asteroid) at the whole thing and sulked for 65 million years before having another go at it.
OK, so lets get this straight, a higher being created everything, so who created the higher being, and who created the higher higher being who created the higher being. Or did the higher being just spontaneously appear out of nothing........hang on a minute, this sounds familiar.
Last edited by Ashley Davis; 05-09-2010, 12:39 AM.
Quoting Frog........Overseas religion seems far more firmly rooted, the USA, middle east and Asia are very spiritual compared to us from what I have seen of it. It isn't quite so easy to stand up and be counted as an atheist everywhere else........
You do not have to be religious to be spiritual....and I think you are doing a dis-service to many many people in this country with that statement......
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