T-Rex 500 Info

[trvo]

If it needs weight to give it momentium to fly right either your setups are lacking or the style of flying needs to modified.

I'd like to point out that I got 3rd in Clubmans 2007, 3rd in 3d masters Sportsmans 2007, 10th in Masters class in Taiwan (Align) 2007, 5th in Masters class at UK 3D Championships 2007 so I am sure I know how to setup and fly a heli to get results .

You should bear in mind that with increased capacity also comes increased power. If you are right on the limits of a pack's C rating then it will not deliver as well as one that's comfortably within it's C rating, so it's a constant juggle to find the sweet spot of the heli, mah is not all about length of flights. This is a fact.

You can't go judging things on just stats such as weight etc, actually flying it is the test. Have you done that test?

I don't remember anyone reccomending the 4200 MAh packs ?

To my knowledge we've only stated that they work well in the 500. I know I could and would happily compete with them if I was to use a 500 sized heli in competition. There may be better sizes out there but they've not been explored by us yet.

"Yep, the 4200's are my favourite pack for the Trex 500, I think the little extra weight that the packs offer is great for improving the characteristics of the machine"

Isn't the same as me saying "Go buy this pack". It's more like me saying "Red is my favorite colour"...

You are now saying the pack is to heavy...

Ash has always maintained that they are too heavy, I believe they are not. You can't penalise him for what I say...

Trev

[ChrisB]

Just to add,i purchased the 4200 packs from Mike and i am happy enough,it was partly Trevs opinion which i value and partly speaking to Mike about the duration and extra C offered by the packs,they also fit my Foamy plane nicely for a good long flight..

I never saw Ash recommend them himself,for the flying i wish to do i would like to have a heavier pack option as i too agree that to a point a bit of extra weight pays dividends..

I can of course use smaller packs if i wanna rag the 500 around..

Versatility springs to mind with this model

[Fixxxer]

Bloody hell folks, Ash & Trev seem to be doing thier hardest to provided us with a guide which will hopefully save us all money and alot of messing around, give them a chance and cut the bitching, it's only just come out !

[Tim Procter]

Well said that man.

[3dbasher]

Well said that man.

agreed.. there trying too help us out here guys

merry christmas

[Ashley Davis]

Thanks for support guys, I come across this a lot..... I test something or publish a video and suddenly I'm recommending it over everything else. Obviously I'm not allowed to test a pack without someone thinking it's my personal recommendation <sigh>

Let me be extremely clear (just for Brian) I have not recommended any pack for the T-Rex 500 yet. The only opinion I have explicitly stated is that I would use a Revo 2200 in preference to the Revo 2100 due to the extra C rating of this pack. This was based on people wanting to buy a pack that could be used in a 450 or 500. This is also only an opinion based on comapring the Revo brand packs to one another......not an opinion comparing them to every brand.

When I'm ready to make a recommendation on a 500 pack I'll be sure to let you know.

You are now saying the pack is to heavy... Our opinion would be the 2500-3000 range would prove optimium but Mike was convinced the 4200 was the best choice due to feedback from yourselves.

Who's 'our', two posts back it was just you.

Of the two packs tried Trev felt the 4200 was performing better overall, this was down to it holding voltage better due to higher capacity, however, it is still only best out of the two packs tried so far, which we did feedback to Mike. I still stand by that feedback based on watching it fly, datalogs off the packs and talking to Trev. I have always felt it was too heavy as Trev has highlighted in his post, I have not flown the 4200 at all and I doubt I will, it's not a size I'm considering and I won't be buying one.

As to this comment:

If that wasn't a recommendation it certainly implies that it is 'THE' pack to have, especially as by this point you had also flown the 2100's 2200's packs as a comparision.

Compared to these two the 4200 does perform better, it doesn't make it a recommendation......as I said before this is invented by you, you've now changed from 'you recommended this' to 'you implied this'. You've also changed from Ash/Trev said it, to only Trev. Seems the facts are getting bent to suit whatever point you want to make.

We will continue to test stuff but I'll thankyou not to draw conclusions until we actually make one.

Apologies but this sort of thing really annoys me, we try to test out stuff and then get accused of misleading, when we haven't even got started yet or come to a final conclusion. grrrrrr

[Smoothound]

I'd agree with the above as well.

As you all know Ash and I often don't agree

[raptorheli2]

i think barney is meaning 2500-3000 is going to be the accepted pack size for price/performance/weight, it certainly is my preference after the small number of flights i have had and on paper.

i again say though, i don't think anyone will be dissapointed in this pack as it will offer a great run time and decent performance. the extra C rating does help the 500 a lot and i think it climbs better with these packs than the 2100/2200 and keeps the headspeed better, again on the limited tests i have ran. if anyone has bought one do not think it is money wasted. i completely agree with barney and ash, the pack is too heavy for what i want and i'm surprised trev thinks the heli flies better with the added weight, but this is opinions we are dealing with and each will have their own.

the good news is mike is one of the few i have dealt with who actually does listen to the customers opinion and will find other alternatives and we do know he is striving to get these other cells. i will be calling them when they re-open likely and asking for a 3000mah pack to be made up of the 1500 cells he currently has in stock, at this point that might be the best revo solution until these other cells are obtainable, not sure when that will be.

cheers

[Ashley Davis]

i think barney is meaning 2500-3000 is going to be the accepted pack size for price/performance/weight, it certainly is my preference after the small number of flights i have had and on paper.

Very happy to agree on this point, 2800 is probably where I will go but it really depends on the pack sizings and weights which I've not seen yet.

Also agree that the 4200 is not 'sports use only', it's very capable of 3D of the highest calibre.......just not my preference at this point.

[raptorheli2]

ashely, we already know the 3000mah pack mike can make is circa 470g's.

i guess the question really is, is anyone buying a FP2500 pack for their helis? i'm sorely tempted to get one until mike has these other cells available but this is getting expensive and still need to buy 3x whatever packs i like.

cheers

[3dbasher]

anyone know when the 500 will be readily avialable... i know its like hens teeth at the moment... feb time i'm guessing?

[raptorheli2]

apparently a decent size batch is in the country so i would expect joe bloggs to have one mid-late jan.

cheers

[ChrisB]

I also am led to believe both Align Uk and Robbe received a nice batch just prior to Xmas but to close to the big day to send them out to shops,When i spoke to Keith at Robbe on 21st he said a shipment was imminent and many shops would get a couple,but did confirm that there is a sizeable waiting list.

My only Lipo choice would be revolution and Electrolite,i need to get a Cellpro pigtail from Mike to make a charge lead up for the Electrolites that use Align balance plugs,

Be great to see what Mike brings out,Electrolite already have some suitable Lipos but would need to check the dimensions

Can anybody who has a 500 confirm if they would fit?

http://www.electrolite.eu/direct/ind...products_id=18


Or 2 of these 3s ones

http://www.electrolite.eu/direct/ind...&products_id=9

[ChrisB]

Just noticed,not that i would touch one,Align have another new Lipo out,also it now has TP balance plugs

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=2076

[Ashley Davis]

a decent number of kits arrived yesterday (more than 30).
Spares are still the big issue, very little available currently.