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  • #16
    get a blade mcpx, and a dx6i or dx7, tbh it will teach you loads and the best thing about it is it will crash over grass and not break anything (9/10) I might be selling mine over the coming week with a fair few lipos if you are interested?
    Do some research on it, its a great learning tool and will teach you the basics up to inverted flight without breaking the bank.

    what has been suggested is fair enough trex 450 etc good little helis, but they will cost maybe £30-40 for an average crash and you will crash learning. you will have to have a decent knowledge of setup etc as they come in kit form and require building, set up etc
    Last edited by simon1; 24-05-2012, 09:59 PM.
    Sab Goblin 500

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    • #17
      Thanks again guys.

      The blade mcpx looks interesting and cost wise very good to learn, would love a 450 however I think I'd be too scared to fly it. So looking on eBay for a used cp3 to repair mine for experience and also purchase a mcpx to get my confidence up, once there get hold of a trex 450.

      Question though, why would I purchase dx6i when the mcpx comes with a transmitter? Is it just because it's a much better quality? And could I use the dx6i with a tree 450?

      Cheers guys, lee

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      • #18
        I found the msr very good to learn on. I'm not recomending one over the mcpx although the msrx is very cheap. There's always been an argument that larger helis are easier to fly and that is true, but it does not mean they are easier to learn on. The msr, mcpx will take a lot of crashing with no damage whereas a 450 and up is very breakable although at the hovering stage the cost tends to be low and limited to main shaft, feathering shaft and blades. If you use fibreglass glades for £3 and clone parts you can repair for about £5. It still interrupts the learning and takes time although some people can repair very quickly. You do need to know how close to the limit you are though and the smaller helis allow you to find that out. Once you can fly without thinking you will soon loose the fear. I think the mcpx and a sim is the new way to start, or the msrx if the mcpx proves too difficult to begin with. Practice is the only way until you can stop thinking, then go for the biggest you can afford for maximum wind tolerance.
        Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
        Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
        Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
        Phoenix Sim

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        • #19
          Hi mate

          The DX6i (or DX7 onwards) are all programmable and have multiple model memories. The DX6i can be bound to up to 10 models, I use one for all of my helis and planes.

          Being a computer radio you can program to get the best throttle, pitch, tail responses, stability etc. on the stock radio you're stuck with the preset programming.
          Trex 600 ESP (Turnigy T600, DS821, DS620, GP750, 120A) sold
          Trex 450 Pro
          (MD933 DS520, BeastX, 40A HW, 450MX)
          450SEV2
          mCPX
          Recycloquad (tm)
          Flying Legends Spitfire (rest in pieces)
          Edge 540 Foamy
          AXN Floater Jet
          MDC F-14 Tomcat
          Depron BAE Hawk

          DX6i, gt power a606, imax b6, A-6-10

          http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulSouthport?feature=mhum

          www.thedailymice.com

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          • #20
            Thanks again, think I'll start off with the mcpx and dx6i, repair my cp3 then progress after that.

            Must admit, seeing my chopper shoot off like that has kind of scared me, so setting up this new controller(dx6i) with my new chopper, how can I safe guard this one also not shooting off?

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            • #21
              The thing to bear in mind is the heli didn't shoot off on it's own accord - it was reacting to a command you gave it in error.
              If the DX6i is set up right and you don't flick switches at random, there won't be a problem
              Trex 600 ESP (Turnigy T600, DS821, DS620, GP750, 120A) sold
              Trex 450 Pro
              (MD933 DS520, BeastX, 40A HW, 450MX)
              450SEV2
              mCPX
              Recycloquad (tm)
              Flying Legends Spitfire (rest in pieces)
              Edge 540 Foamy
              AXN Floater Jet
              MDC F-14 Tomcat
              Depron BAE Hawk

              DX6i, gt power a606, imax b6, A-6-10

              http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulSouthport?feature=mhum

              www.thedailymice.com

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              • #22
                With the mcpx you can hold onto it. You can stake a heli to the ground with tent/garden pegs over the undercarraige. It is handy to know how escs work at switchon. Most, if not all, are fail safe so if you switch on and the throttle is not at zero they will ignore it. You will have to go to minimum throttle before the esc will arm and then it will work. A decent rx will also have a failsafe so that if the signal is lost or the tx turned off the throttle will go to zero. There is also a throttle hold switch that overrides the throttle stick and keeps throttle at zero as safety and also for autos. On the Dx6i throttle hold has its own trim settings and so you can set a different low throttle setting to the one on the throttle stick. If you switch on with throttle hold on the esc will take this trim value as zero. If you then come out of throttle hold you will then go to the throttle stick trim which can be different. This can then start the rotor turning which will be unexpected. Either keep the trim level the same or always switch on the rx when the highest trim is selected. There is a monitor screen which you can look at to check the throttle trim at all times and all flight modes.
                Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
                Phoenix Sim

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                • #23
                  Right, think I'm sorted. Found a replacement on eBay for my cp3 for £50, so I can play with rebuilds, and just ordered the dx6i + Blade mcpx. Thanks for all your help and guidance, appreciated

                  Lee

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                  • #24
                    Good stuff mate. Once you get your head around the DX6i you'll see just how much better it is than Esky stuff.
                    The MCPX will also be a revelation compared to the CP3, having flown a CP3 I can only describe it as awful - sorry!
                    Trex 600 ESP (Turnigy T600, DS821, DS620, GP750, 120A) sold
                    Trex 450 Pro
                    (MD933 DS520, BeastX, 40A HW, 450MX)
                    450SEV2
                    mCPX
                    Recycloquad (tm)
                    Flying Legends Spitfire (rest in pieces)
                    Edge 540 Foamy
                    AXN Floater Jet
                    MDC F-14 Tomcat
                    Depron BAE Hawk

                    DX6i, gt power a606, imax b6, A-6-10

                    http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulSouthport?feature=mhum

                    www.thedailymice.com

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                    • #25
                      [QUOTE=Rustyrifles;845900]Right, think I'm sorted. Found a replacement on eBay for my cp3 for £50, so I can play with rebuilds, and just ordered the dx6i + Blade mcpx. Thanks for all your help and guidance, appreciated

                      good choice
                      Sab Goblin 500

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                      • #26
                        You'll love it
                        If you want a hand with dx6i settings for it, shout back, its easy to tame the mcpx with a bit of tweaking the transmitter

                        Golden rule: get in the habit of flicking that throtte hold switch BEFORE it hits the floor

                        If you do this, crashes are usually free
                        DX8

                        Phoenix
                        RealFlight 7

                        Mcpx BL

                        Trex 550 DFC with Vx1n

                        Trex 700 DFC Pro Hv with Vx1n

                        Zmr250 mini H Quad racer

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                        • #27
                          The McpX is FAST compared to the CP3, take Mark's advise and tame it right down with the DX6i. as you get better you can increase you settings. If you fly it over grass and crash you will most likely be able to pick it up and fly again. If it does need a part to repair it, it will not break the bank.

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                          • #28
                            The lads are right about the mcpx my two scoundrels have battered the mcpx they bought and I mean battered but it still flys, God only knows because I don't.The CX2 was there first heli and was awesome for the lads to learn on but you seem to be past that stage!!
                            Enjoy the mcpx but for the next step I deffinately recommend the Trex 450 pro.
                            Just for the record I have done more rebuilds for my 2 than the pope has done communion.
                            But its just awesome.lol
                            The Fleet

                            SAB Goblin 500 sport. (in build)
                            XK K110 on its way. Arrived and superb
                            Blade MCPX (just about airworthy)
                            Trex 450 Pro on Brain 2
                            Raptor 30 V2. Converted to electric with Quick UK conversion
                            Mini Titan super Cobra ah1
                            Alien 550 Quad.3DR Pixhawk
                            Futaba 7C 8FGS 14SG
                            Specktrum DX6i
                            Hovered by me,flown by my boys Nicholas and Edward.
                            Cheers,
                            Paul

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                            • #29
                              Lots of presses for me today, my replacement cp3 has turned up and that seems to have enough spares in the box for me to have two operational cp3s, and the dx6i and blade have also arrived.

                              It's a nice little chopper, managed to hover a few times but she is sensitive :S. I have crashed a few times and now got an issue that it won't take off, it's spins up nicely but at full speed it makes a noise like a hummingbird and will not lift. I have changed the blades and checked everything but no luck. Any suggestions?

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                              • #30
                                The main gear has slipped on its shaft, you need to press it back up. You can check this by feeling if there is vertical play in the main shaft.
                                Last edited by CPN; 26-05-2012, 04:35 PM.

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