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  • #16
    Design it or copy?

    Lets copy!

    Should we test it?

    Why ? We copied one that works!

    Right right so what now?

    Now we get the money, then we get the women!!!

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!

    Oh S!*t Oh S!*t Oh S!*t the bloody head exploded! Alan has a 700mm carbonfiber toothpick sticking out his face! What do we do what do we do !!!!!


    Errrrrrrrrrr .......Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....Errrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ! User error! We'll hang it on that! Its all under control! Now how much Edam do we have left at the factory. Think its about time we released a new upgrade!

    lol
    Tom

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    • #17
      Originally posted by J-S-Q View Post
      I don't know but there is a thread on Helifreak from a guy who had the bolts on the blade grips snap in just the same way as this report from Align. It does seem like there is a huge amount of force on these bolts and they protrude from the grip quite a lot, making them quite vulnerable. I don't really like this design that much apart from the fact that it gives you a very low rotor disc.
      That was the 6hv head wasn't it? Remember its always user error! lol!
      Tom

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      • #18
        We should remember though that there is already more align dfc heads in the wild than 6 and 7hv heads...


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        • #19
          Snaaakeey - total quality.

          Rapidgaz - Align receives more s**t as you say, because they release more s**t than any other manufacturer. Yes other manufacturers have problems but not to the extent that align do. Look at the number of releases they have and then the revisions that follow. They make a decent product cheap with little development (this costs money) release it to the public and work on it in the background. It's nice to see they have stepped up this time and made good on a bad design, compared to their usual "it's your fault, you did something to it as ours is fine...! By the way we've just released a b version although it has nothing to do with the problem you are having".

          Before you start I am not align bashing, I have bought a lot of their helis (3 450's, 2 600N's, 700N, 2 500's, 550, 600pro efl) and will continue to do so. When you buy one you accept the consequences of having a cheap heli with cheap parts - It's cheaply made. Compare that to a good brand like Synergy, you put it together and you go fly the damn thing without worrying if the tail will stay on, will the blades stay attached to the heli, is my frame going to crack on a hard auto, how can I get this cheesium screw out, what if it's too cold and my 3GX won't work, etc,etc.

          Just my opinion

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          • #20
            To be honest we get sick of the Align bully boys.Jack flew my 700/dfc yesterday in a howling wind and he really flew it very hard,mine has now had many flights with no issues.
            Align has done more for this hobby than any other manufacturer bringing it to the masses at reasonable cost and parts even cheaper.
            We have had virtually all makes of heli over the years and all and i mean all have had bad points.
            Yes Align have had issues but not that many in the scheme of things.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Snaaakeey View Post
              That was the 6hv head wasn't it? Remember its always user error! lol!
              Yes, the 6HV and it's the only case that I've heard of myself:

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              • #22
                Agreed they have brought helis to the masses by having a price point that you can't refuse. When you can buy a 600 pro efl for for around £650-700 with everything in it apart from batteries, the same price as a lot of kits alone, it's hard to look elsewhere.

                Like I said I am not just bashing align for the sake of it, I keep buying their kits so they must be doing something right. My point and issue is when you have problems putting together a new kit. I recently built a 450Pro V2, during the build screws stripped, I had to replace the whole tail grips and hub due to bad bearings from factory (luckily it locked up while testing on the bench and not in the air) and I have serious vibrations from a bad torque tube drive gear/auto gear. I don't go crying about it, I don't complain to the shop I just buy the bits I need and replace them. I accept them for what they are. If this had been my Synergy E6 I would have been on the phone to climb-out and I'm sure the issue would have been resolved as I would not expect this sort of thing with a Synergy. They are what they are - Cheap.

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                • #23
                  Cant beat Align at the moment IMO.

                  Picked up a full 700E v2 3GX Super Combo for £840 delivered brand new, that is complete with everything! (not in the UK, same as Compass, Kasama, Outrage etc)

                  I cant think of any helis that have been released completely fault free, especially anywhere close to that price range.
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                  • #24
                    Will 'swashplate dampers' sort out the problem
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Snaaakeey View Post
                      Design it or copy?

                      Lets copy!

                      Should we test it?

                      Why ? We copied one that works!

                      Right right so what now?

                      Now we get the money, then we get the women!!!

                      Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!

                      Oh S!*t Oh S!*t Oh S!*t the bloody head exploded! Alan has a 700mm carbonfiber toothpick sticking out his face! What do we do what do we do !!!!!


                      Errrrrrrrrrr .......Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....Errrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ! User error! We'll hang it on that! Its all under control! Now how much Edam do we have left at the factory. Think its about time we released a new upgrade!

                      lol
                      Thought the align pilots tested it way before release.!!!


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                      • #26
                        I have thrashed my dfc with the 10000watt motor and it aint snaped yet!!!!! looks ok to me

                        and for that matter so has szabo....

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BladeStriker View Post
                          Will 'swashplate dampers' sort out the problem
                          No but a good old fasion flybar would
                          All joking aside I think they meant to say a loosely fitting thread that would have been more understandable it could be the holes drilled slightly oversize meaning the thread would tighten down but it could easily come loose. It could also have been drilled to deep so there was no support down at the bottom & the shanked bit was taking all of the load cnc produced bolts would be the only way round it as you just couldn't buy a bolt say 1mm longer you would have to make it. Good on them to stand up this time & rectify the problem it's not normaly the done thing at align, a bucket of sand to put their heads in is the norm here.
                          Last edited by LipolyGone; 23-01-2012, 05:58 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Supa Koopa View Post
                            Snaaakeey - total quality.

                            Compare that to a good brand like Synergy, you put it together and you go fly the damn thing without worrying if the tail will stay on.

                            Just my opinion
                            Tell that to the lad down at our club who had the spring steel retaining clip come off the tail pitch slider on his N9 whilst doing a 4 point tick-tock.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dunny View Post
                              Tell that to the lad down at our club who had the spring steel retaining clip come off the tail pitch slider on his N9 whilst doing a 4 point tick-tock.
                              Had a synergy tail fail at our club too.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Supa Koopa View Post
                                Snaaakeey - . Compare that to a good brand like Synergy,.Just my opinion
                                Synergy are far from their own teething problems I and 2 others had our tails explode on our N5's running nhp 95's tail blades.

                                When the the first batch of n5's were released .
                                There isn't an Heli on this planet released without teething problems .
                                henseleit included?

                                Just my 2p of course.
                                Last edited by mark Taylor; 23-01-2012, 06:54 PM.
                                MARK

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