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  • #31
    Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
    Using that logic... faster reactions in the right direction are very helpful and avoid crashes. Its called a get out clause. Before trying any new move you should practice on the sim till you can do it perfect... then ... practice a get out clause. Couple this with making sure you are totally accomplished in all orientations and faster reactions are a must when flying heli's.

    I have had many near crashes that have been avoided by a perfectly timed get out clause done at lighting pace a few inches off the ground.

    So yes you are right. Fast reactions in the wrong direction are useless. Which is why mine are always in the right direction... which makes them very very useful.

    Also never had one mechanical problem with any of my heli's. Proper set up, maintenance and pre and post flight checks help avoid these problems.
    Well, the last crash I had when I was doing an inverted auto from about 1,000ft in heavy wind and grey skies. The wind took it further away than I expected and I lost orientation. By that I mean I had no idea whether it was facing up, down, left right, forwards, backwards or somewhere in between. I re-engaged the engine and put positive pitch in on full power thinking that the most likely orientation was up. It wasn't.

    Another time, not long before that, I was hovering inverted about 5ft off the floor and the tail slider failed. Nothing to do with building, just a common failure on the T-Rex 600 LE. That time I climbed out inverted, piro flipped at about 50ft, hit throttle hold and auto'd it down to a perfect landing. Are those reactions good enough for you?

    I am not a great pilot, or even a good pilot, so I bow to your clearly superior ability. But I try to do things that stretch me. That is when I crash, that is when a lot of people crash, even the best. Sometimes things break, then some of these times I crash.

    Maybe we will be seeing you at the 3d champs next year, given your stated prowess. I look forward to the videos because you sound really awesome.
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    • #32
      Align still don't make a 3G 520mm blade AFAIK, the supplied blades have been very good on my 550 and when I break them I'll but another pair exactly the same!

      The plastic bits on the 550 make it lighter (not tongue in cheek ) which help to make it around the same weight as the Logo 500 and thus with similar performance, give me light plastic bits where shiny metal bling isn't needed any day. The 550E is the heli the 600E should have been in the first place, they've thrown away anything that wasn't needed like bellcranks with all the associated links, make the sideframes thinner, although now they break more easily, and for balance, I do own a Logo 500 but after a few crashes it needs lots of bits which cost lots more than Align bits, with the flybarless systems now in use the 550E is around 99% of the heli the Logo 500 is, performance wise and it's my favourite heli, always the first in the car and the last to go back.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
        Nah... it will still be funny. Im eagerly awaiting the excitement and rush of a good crash. Only seen em on youtube so far
        Oh man, gimme your heli, and you can bet your bottom dollar i can make it crash and it will be spectacular. So good in fact that one carrier bag will just not be enough!



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        • #34
          Originally posted by Aidi View Post
          Oh man, gimme your heli, and you can bet your bottom dollar i can make it crash and it will be spectacular. So good in fact that one carrier bag will just not be enough!
          Sounds like fun i will bring my camera and the required carrier bags
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Aidi View Post
            Oh man, gimme your heli, and you can bet your bottom dollar i can make it crash and it will be spectacular. So good in fact that one carrier bag will just not be enough!
            Also... which one would you like to crash for me?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by SRH990 View Post
              Align still don't make a 3G 520mm blade AFAIK, the supplied blades have been very good on my 550 and when I break them I'll but another pair exactly the same!

              The plastic bits on the 550 make it lighter (not tongue in cheek ) which help to make it around the same weight as the Logo 500 and thus with similar performance, give me light plastic bits where shiny metal bling isn't needed any day. The 550E is the heli the 600E should have been in the first place, they've thrown away anything that wasn't needed like bellcranks with all the associated links, make the sideframes thinner, although now they break more easily, and for balance, I do own a Logo 500 but after a few crashes it needs lots of bits which cost lots more than Align bits, with the flybarless systems now in use the 550E is around 99% of the heli the Logo 500 is, performance wise and it's my favourite heli, always the first in the car and the last to go back.
              Cool... thanx. If it flys well I'm happy. Im going to put Edge blades on it anyway and see how i go with those. I like the feel of them on my 500
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              • #37
                Meh, I say if you're not crashing then you're playing it safe. Well that was my excuse for my weekly stacks.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lynx.1677 View Post
                  Meh, I say if you're not crashing then you're playing it safe. Well that was my excuse for my weekly stacks.
                  I just hammer the sim time before i try new moves following lots of good advice from other pilots
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                  • #39
                    The Edges are really nice on the 550

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                    • #40
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
                        I have had many near crashes that have been avoided by a perfectly timed get out clause done at lighting pace a few inches off the ground.
                        This sentence genuinely made me laugh out loud.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gorber View Post
                          Well, the last crash I had when I was doing an inverted auto from about 1,000ft in heavy wind and grey skies. The wind took it further away than I expected and I lost orientation. By that I mean I had no idea whether it was facing up, down, left right, forwards, backwards or somewhere in between. I re-engaged the engine and put positive pitch in on full power thinking that the most likely orientation was up. It wasn't.

                          Another time, not long before that, I was hovering inverted about 5ft off the floor and the tail slider failed. Nothing to do with building, just a common failure on the T-Rex 600 LE. That time I climbed out inverted, piro flipped at about 50ft, hit throttle hold and auto'd it down to a perfect landing. Are those reactions good enough for you?

                          I am not a great pilot, or even a good pilot, so I bow to your clearly superior ability. But I try to do things that stretch me. That is when I crash, that is when a lot of people crash, even the best. Sometimes things break, then some of these times I crash.

                          Maybe we will be seeing you at the 3d champs next year, given your stated prowess. I look forward to the videos because you sound really awesome.

                          Sounds like your soapbox needs a good polishing Sounds like your reflexes are good. Although hitting throttle hold at 50ft gives you a lot of time to think. Therefore does not really contribute to the evidence of your fast reactions. Also, climbing out inverted from 5ft simply requires a good degree of negative. But 50 feet seems excessive to simply avoid kissing the dirt. Must have really shaken you up!!
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Vanquish View Post
                            This sentence genuinely made me laugh out loud.
                            Quantify your amusement if you wouldn't mind Vanquish?! Im interested to learn whats ever so funny about doing what everyone else does in the hobby? Or are you simply being a sheep and joining in the witch hunt?! Don't forget to bring your burning torch. Your late interaction in an already tired thread made me roll around on the floor laughing. My sides hurt
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
                              Using that logic... faster reactions in the right direction are very helpful and avoid crashes. Its called a get out clause. Before trying any new move you should practice on the sim till you can do it perfect... then ... practice a get out clause. Couple this with making sure you are totally accomplished in all orientations and faster reactions are a must when flying heli's.

                              I have had many near crashes that have been avoided by a perfectly timed get out clause done at lighting pace a few inches off the ground.

                              So yes you are right. Fast reactions in the wrong direction are useless. Which is why mine are always in the right direction... which makes them very very useful.

                              Also never had one mechanical problem with any of my heli's. Proper set up, maintenance and pre and post flight checks help avoid these problems.
                              All i can say is you must be mister perfect in the model heli world even Curtis and Bob J manage to crash so you must have some extraordinary skill.Marty.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SaneAdam View Post
                                Sounds like your soapbox needs a good polishing Sounds like your reflexes are good. Although hitting throttle hold at 50ft gives you a lot of time to think. Therefore does not really contribute to the evidence of your fast reactions. Also, climbing out inverted from 5ft simply requires a good degree of negative. But 50 feet seems excessive to simply avoid kissing the dirt. Must have really shaken you up!!
                                Not sure what you are getting at with the soap box and I didn't say I have fast reactions, I don't think I do have fast reactions. In the case I described they were the correct ones though, but they aren't always, often I crash because I dumb thumb it. It is just that you seem to believe you don't crash because you have superior flying skills to people that do crash. More than that, you were trying to say that your models never fail because you build them in a superior way to those of us that do have helis fail.

                                I was just trying to suggest to you that if you tried the sort of manouvres that some of us try, or find yourself in some of the situations some of us find ourselves in, then you might find your lightening reflexes evade you. Honestly, from the way you write about yourself, anybody would think you were some sort of cross between a Ninja and Duncan Osbourne, it is genuinely funny to read.
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