3GX compared to Beast X?

[moyesboy]

On the BeastX you have to set the repsonse to "Transmitter" then the endpoints of the transmitter cylcics determine the roll and flip rate. Even in the most wild LED setting the BeastX is in the German slow motion 3D style - the more sedate settings must be a complete yawn!

I can't beleive anyone would want fast cyclics than are available on the BeastX in tX endpoint control - I had so much cyclic on my 600n the engine nearly stopped before I applied any collective!

I can put you in touch with someone who has tried 3Gx and beastX, and went for the BeastX - but his 3GX trial only lasted half a flight ending in a reset that almost completely destroyed the heli. I'm guessing they fixed that issue now?

[Eckchaz]

Well I've got a TRex 500EFL on the way and I'm just wondering whether to build it with the included 3GX or the Beast X that I already have. Tempted to go with the 3GX just for the sake of trying something different with the added benefit of being able to use satellite receivers.

I went the Beastx route on my EFL so cant comment on the 3GX, I decided not to with the 3GX as Beastx reports are better and theres no resetting midflight ... its not the rx/sat tidyness that gives you a headache.. its the bloody esc placement & cog.

[J-S-Q]

its not the rx/sat tidyness that gives you a headache.. its the bloody esc placement & cog.

Yep, that's what I've heard. I'm using 2,650 mAh batteries so I guess that should make the CoG slightly easier.

[Eckchaz]

Yep, that's what I've heard. I'm using 2,650 mAh batteries so I guess that should make the CoG slightly easier.

Thats what im using mate 2650's.. as on other thread, i mentioned theres only a 23grm diff between me and the other guy who had perfect cog (he was using GensAce 2600 lipo's)

Did you seen the auto link? Heres the picture of the batts your using lol!41Qbb+KPEGL__SL500_AA300_.jpg

[J-S-Q]

Thats what im using mate 2650's.. as on other thread, i mentioned theres only a 23grm diff between me and the other guy who had perfect cog (he was using GensAce 2600 lipo's)

Did you seen the auto link? Heres the picture of the batts your using lol![ATTACH=CONFIG]32317[/ATTACH]

Yeah those are the ones! No CoG issues whatsoever.

[Eckchaz]

Yeah those are the ones! No CoG issues whatsoever.

Erm.... I think you'll be tail heavy!!

[tourerjim]

On the BeastX you have to set the repsonse to "Transmitter" then the endpoints of the transmitter cylcics determine the roll and flip rate. Even in the most wild LED setting the BeastX is in the German slow motion 3D style - the more sedate settings must be a complete yawn!

I can't beleive anyone would want fast cyclics than are available on the BeastX in tX endpoint control - I had so much cyclic on my 600n the engine nearly stopped before I applied any collective!

I can put you in touch with someone who has tried 3Gx and beastX, and went for the BeastX - but his 3GX trial only lasted half a flight ending in a reset that almost completely destroyed the heli. I'm guessing they fixed that issue now?

Im not so sure its the fast cyclic we're looking for" I can only speak for myself, have 3G, 3GX & beastx the 3G's are so simple to setup & only need radio settings to adjust to your flying style where'as beastx setup is within unit & flying styles are mainly done within the unit but ether one you use has the same ability so I think main difference is control feel between radio & heli.
The mention of 3GX reset" I have read couple posts on this the same as beastx causing heli to suddenly bank over on its side at point of take off, we will always here of reports like this but most important thing is to check each time that the unit has initialised.

[waveydavey]

Im not so sure its the fast cyclic we're looking for" I can only speak for myself, have 3G, 3GX & beastx the 3G's are so simple to setup & only need radio settings to adjust to your flying style where'as beastx setup is within unit & flying styles are mainly done within the unit but ether one you use has the same ability so I think main difference is control feel between radio & heli.
The mention of 3GX reset" I have read couple posts on this the same as beastx causing heli to suddenly bank over on its side at point of take off, we will always here of reports like this but most important thing is to check each time that the unit has initialised.

No Jim the 3GX was resetting in mid air, not rolling over on take off. This can happen to any fbl equipped heli

[tourerjim]

One of the post I read on the 3GX resetting in flight admitted he could't remember if he had checked if it initialised before he took off, is this something that's happen to you, I've got to have had fifty odd flights with mine in past 4 weeks with no probs (touch wood)

[coolice]

Hey.

All of the inflight 3GX resets I've read about are on 450 size models running stock ESC BEC's not powerful enough to power all the servos, hence why the conclusion is its brownout related. Some reckon the settings return to default, but reading between the lines their looking at what the pc software tells them which has a bug in that it doesn't remember if you wrote 250, 450, 500, 550, 600 or 700 settings to the unit. So the assumption is its forgot the settings.

Not having flown the Beastx I cannot compare, but flying with the likes of Duncan and Russ Deakin who fly beasts you get to hear a lot. Compared to the 3G/GX there isn't any real advantage to running either/or, they all have good and bad traits. Beastx V3 according to these two is not as good as V1, flight feel etc. However as is usual we all have our own flying styles, individual requirements etc hence why one unit and settings feel good for some and not others.
It's similar for me with the 3G/GX and Leon Lukes settings over on HF, many seem to like them but for myself they are horrible and make the model feel loose and unpredictable. Much like Aligns beta v1.2 firmware for the 3GX I've found, after going back to V1.1 at the weekend.

For me the 3G/GX's work well, they are not plug and play if you are a hardcore 3D'er but they do well when you hit the sweet spot with their settings.
.

[tourerjim]

Hey.

All of the inflight 3GX resets I've read about are on 450 size models running stock ESC BEC's not powerful enough to power all the servos, hence why the conclusion is its brownout related. Some reckon the settings return to default, but reading between the lines their looking at what the pc software tells them which has a bug in that it doesn't remember if you wrote 250, 450, 500, 550, 600 or 700 settings to the unit. So the assumption is its forgot the settings.

Not having flown the Beastx I cannot compare, but flying with the likes of Duncan and Russ Deakin who fly beasts you get to hear a lot. Compared to the 3G/GX there isn't any real advantage to running either/or, they all have good and bad traits. Beastx V3 according to these two is not as good as V1, flight feel etc. However as is usual we all have our own flying styles, individual requirements etc hence why one unit and settings feel good for some and not others.
It's similar for me with the 3G/GX and Leon Lukes settings over on HF, many seem to like them but for myself they are horrible and make the model feel loose and unpredictable. Much like Aligns beta v1.2 firmware for the 3GX I've found, after going back to V1.1 at the weekend.

For me the 3G/GX's work well, they are not plug and play if you are a hardcore 3D'er but they do well when you hit the sweet spot with their settings.
.

Much like when 3G first come out, I've never had an issue with the 3G & I was first to be in there" one my 500 & 600 then when beastx came out fitted that to the 500 but after some months went back to 3G up until month ago then went 3GX, 3G is still on my 600 blimey how long has 3G been out now!
I have sold 3 beastx units in past weeks but kept the other two one on my 250 the other on Mini-Titan so this is like saying tried & tested post but like you mention its always possible something else has caused the unit to reset

[agh321]

Hi i had a 3gx 10 flights old it decided to reset its self on a trex 700n cost apx £200 to repair

i now have 2 Beastx s on trex 700s with no problems yes you have to tweek the beast unit but its worth it for your type of flying


what i will say is that the 3gx will run rings around the beast x on standard settings it was quicker than my radio settings and kept me on my toes, the gov was good and loosing the rx was a bonus from the wiring point of view i thought thats the future right
there

and then one day it re set its self apx 50ft high and now i dont trust them any more sorry its Beast x all the way from now on

[tourerjim]

[QUOTE=agh321;732959]Hi i had a 3gx 10 flights old it decided to reset its self on a trex 700n cost apx £200 to repair

i now have 2 Beastx s on trex 700s with no problems yes you have to tweek the beast unit but its worth it for your type of flying


what i will say is that the 3gx will run rings around the beast x on standard settings it was quicker than my radio settings and kept me on my toes, the gov was good and loosing the rx was a bonus from the wiring point of view i thought thats the future right
there

and then one day it re set its self apx 50ft high and now i dont trust them any more sorry its Beast x all the way from now on[/QUOTE
50ft.? can you tell that the unit reset itself!

[agh321]

when i picked all the bits up got back to my car i thought ide try every thing to see if a servo had gone bad or the lipo had disconected or the rx had failed everything worked as it should 4000mah lipo 2 flights old after charge re built the heli and test flew it only hover,d and low down stuff
with all the origional stuff and thought i dont trust it

[coolice]

Much like when 3G first come out, I've never had an issue with the 3G & I was first to be in there" one my 500 & 600 then when beastx came out fitted that to the 500 but after some months went back to 3G up until month ago then went 3GX, 3G is still on my 600 blimey how long has 3G been out now!
I have sold 3 beastx units in past weeks but kept the other two one on my 250 the other on Mini-Titan so this is like saying tried & tested post but like you mention its always possible something else has caused the unit to reset

Hey.

I'm still running a 3G on my 700E, this is the same unit I had on my 700N which was the first 3G into the UK and was video'd being test flown outside in Midlands car park :-)
.