Why????

[Stuart]

I'd hate for this forum to become a place where only 'good news' was allowed and any negative thoughts had to be hidden away in dark corners.

If we are only allowed to praise a retailer when they do good, but have to stay silent when something odd happens we will have lost one of the great things about this place.

I still hope this is just some random error and not a policy decision on their part so I'm holding out for a good result even as it feels less likely as each hour passes.

Mark

This is not what its about !!

The issue is very simple we will make all aware soon enough but suffice to say if your going to talk constructively, have some fun and be sensible the topics will stay in full view. If your going to bait people or stores, ranting then I'll take the view that as soon as you get into a bunfight I'll pull the plug on it.

For way too long certain people have been using the forum as a playground for there little wars and personal vindettas of hatred and its ALL going to stop.

All to often people to me are making mountains out of mole hills and spreading false assumptions because they've nothing better to do than stir up rubbish - so soon the lay of the land here is about to change and those that use up there chances will no longer be around.

Its doesn't effect the ethos of freespeech because the onus is always on the member to stay within the rules. Nothing about only having positive posts, I thought some would have seen the writing on the wall when I posted a couple of weeks ago....

http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...tml#post690006

So if the bunfight arrives and people can't respond constructively then they will find the thread moved into debates so they can either cool off or smash there keyboard to pieces but I'll not let them suck the whole forum into it either.

A footnote to clarify this is NOT aimed at Gareth and Ben - its one the key issues within the forum as a whole that I intend to root out....

[Mark_T]

The issue is very simple we will make all aware soon enough but suffice to say if your going to talk constructively, have some fun and be sensible the topics will stay in full view. If your going to bait people or stores, ranting then I'll take the view that as soon as you get into a bunfight I'll pull the plug on it.

This isn't a problem unique to this forum, but we do seem to end up with some convoluted approaches to the problem here that would be dealt with elsewhere simply by removing the offending posts, not sending the whole thread into purgatory.

The risk is strong that people who dislike a particular thread only have to stir things up to get it consigned to 'Debates' when the subject matter would appear to warrant a wider audience.

I remain to be convinced that this is a sensible approach, not that it is important if I'm convinced or not ...

[Smoothound]

I agree with Mark! Just hide the single post/s not the whole thread!

[anyw]

This isn't a problem unique to this forum, but we do seem to end up with some convoluted approaches to the problem here that would be dealt with elsewhere simply by removing the offending posts, not sending the whole thread into purgatory.

The risk is strong that people who dislike a particular thread only have to stir things up to get it consigned to 'Debates' when the subject matter would appear to warrant a wider audience.

I remain to be convinced that this is a sensible approach, not that it is important if I'm convinced or not ...

having been a moderator on a non heli forum a while back i appreciate what a thankless job it is, it is unbelievable the way people change when they get behind a keyboard, you moderate a post that breaks the rules and you/the forum are stopping free speech or taking sides and the abuse you see on the forum is only the tip of the iceberg compared to what happens and gets said behind the scenes. now i have no gripes with any of the people concerned in this incident and have no problem with fl, but i think we need to stop and think what we want from this forum and then post responsibly so we can get that.
i have never met stuart but i think i have been around this forum long enough to trust he is going to try to be as fair as possible.
i do take your point about people might bait to try to get the thread moved but again i think we need to trust stuarts judgement here because i dont think he is a fool and will know what is really going on and will act accordingly.

[Mark_T]

having been a moderator on a non heli forum a while back i appreciate what a thankless job it is, it is unbelievable the way people change when they get behind a keyboard, you moderate a post that breaks the rules and you/the forum are stopping free speech or taking sides and the abuse you see on the forum is only the tip of the iceberg compared to what happens and gets said behind the scenes.

Me too, I've moderated on much larger and more acrimonious non-heli forums than this one, which is why I never underestimate the ability of people to manipulate the rules to their own ends.

My current position is driven mostly by recent events, which do not in my view at least, display good judgement.

I appreciate others may hold different views of course.

[anyw]

[QUOTE=Mark_T;696416]Me too, I've moderated on much larger and more acrimonious non-heli forums than this one, which is why I never underestimate the ability of people to manipulate the rules to their own ends.

My current position is driven mostly by recent events, which do not in my view at least, display good judgement.

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then you know it is a thankless no win job which you have tobe mad todo

[jwatts007]

"i have a right to express my view and i am doing just that"
End of story then, if you believe you own a right, then you must believe they may possibly own a right and do just that.............

[anyw]

"i have a right to express my view and i am doing just that"
End of story then, if you believe you own a right, then you must believe they may possibly own a right and do just that.............

thats not strictly true either on forums or in real life, you may have your own view but you must be responsble in the way you air them,

[Stuart]

There is way more to this that I cannot discuss openly yet but the ethos and focus is to end the bitching, baiting and driving a thread south just to stir up a bunfight. When im ready to let everyone know of the changes soon i will do.

[Asid]

"i have a right to express my view and i am doing just that"
End of story then, if you believe you own a right, then you must believe they may possibly own a right and do just that.............

Do just what? you have lost me.

Please keep this thread on track, civil and courteous.

Civility and courtesy cost nothing.

Thankyou

[Eckchaz]

WTF.. Still going on but another thread for it....

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I still agree with the minority... Strip away everything else, the MAIN issue is a grievence between a buyer & sellers account.. the right move was done and again.. I'm not sticking up for any parties.

[horsham rc]

one day i walked in the park it was great and i see a elephant eating a pig with a mouse up its nose and a dog out its ass but then i was back home eating some corn flacks with cream and jelly on oh so nice

[Smoothound]

one day i walked in the park it was great and i see a elephant eating a pig with a mouse up its nose and a dog out its ass but then i was back home eating some corn flacks with cream and jelly on oh so nice

I'll have a quarter of whatever you are smoking for sure!

[jwatts007]

Do just what? you have lost me.

Please keep this thread on track, civil and courteous.

Civility and courtesy cost nothing.

Thankyou

No need to get all shirty Acid.............

[horsham rc]

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