Who else don't like sims.

[ledtoe]

Sims worked well for me to start with... prob crashed a few k's worth of heli's in the first hour on it,saved me alot of money. but after that got way to easy.... i dont find it to realistic. might go back to it when i want to learn some fancy stuff.

[tourerjim]

Find it harder than flying for real so hardly go on it" but lads at the field have said its much better through your TV, I've only got 17" laptop & can't be asked to connect it to the TV.

[msssltd]

I have a love hate relationship with Phoenix.

It was really useful in the first few weeks just teaching my fingers not to over-correct. It was useful in the first few months teaching my brain the flight dynamics of rotary flight. It was useful when I progressed onto nose in to over-come my right is right and left is left reflex.

I find it is a balancing act though. Too long on Phoenix and I start to go backwards. Learning new moves I don't really learn them until I pull it off for real. I had circuits and nose in cracked on Phoenix 3 or 4 months and a number of tail booms before I could do it reliably in real life. Once the adrenaline got involved, it felt like I had spent no time practicing on Phoenix at all. What seems to work best for me is short sessions on Phoenix learning new inputs then a break of a couple days before trying it for real. Then more short sessions on the sim refining what I have learnt.

The lack of depth perception and the narrow field of view are definitely the biggest drawbacks for me. There is no sense of how fast your heli is moving towards or away from you and the shifting view only makes it worse. Some 2D views of plan and elevation would probably improve it, which I think I might just suggest to them.

[Gav]

If I ever find the time to have a go on the sim, I always prefer to join a multi-flyer session. Find myself switching it off fairly quickly if I'm not able to connect/join a session.

[p4ddy]

everyone is different and everyone learns at different rates, what works for one may not work for another.

the sim is like masturbation and the real deal is the sex !

In that case i am such a w4nk3r

[Vanquish]

I can understand why people get bored of simulators when you have the real thing sitting there waiting to be flown. However, if it wasnt for sims I dont think I would have ever got into this hobby. I spent at least 5-6 hours a week for over a year on realflight sim before I ever even bought a heli, so when I eventually did buy one I was already flying most 3D moves on the sim and had all my forward/reverse/inverted orientations totally sorted. Obviously it was a bit of a jump from the sim to real life but I've been flying for two years now and only had a couple of crashes and I owe all that to the sim. No doubt its saved me 1000's of pounds!

[p4ddy]

That's it though eh, it is meant as a TOOL & not a form of entertainment.

[Disc]

I suffer with the depth perception it just isn't right....

as for having a 3D version er no way can I justify that!

[del19_82]

I don't get on with the sim either. No matter how hard I try I can't seem to stay focused for long enough on it and end up either messing about or throwing the planks about on it . I think that if you can use it to actually learn then it is a good thing but personally I prefer to be out flying the real thing

[jammie]

i have found them very usfull while i am still learning must have saved a fortune in money