Thinking about going nitro what do I need?

[Holst]

Ive been thinking about buying a nitro for a few weeks but I want to work out the cost before I decide if I can afford it.

So I will need.

Airframe + Blades
Engine
Muffler
3 cyclic servos
1 Tail servo
1 throttle servo
receiver
Battery pack
voltage regulator
Govenor
Gyro
Fuel tube.
Fuel filter.

(is that everything to complete the heli?)

And then extra stuff specific to nitros.

Starter
Fuel + fuel cap
Fuel pump
Glowplugs
Thing to warm the glowplugs up with (i forget the name)

So what did I forget?

Thanks guys

At the moment im looking at a 50 size as its big enough to handle most conditions and wont use as muh fuel as a 90.

[David Drew]

A field box is useful.

Looks about it though. Personally I always use a battery checker (Rx batt) every flight. Just to be safe.

David

[murph]

Instead of buying it all together why not get a couple of bits per month? Thats what I did, it takes a while to get everything but at least you can take your time over building it

I have a feild box going spare, £20 plus postage or free if you wanna collect from North Yorks?

[rotorwrecker]

Ive been thinking about buying a nitro for a few weeks but I want to work out the cost before I decide if I can afford it.

So I will need.

Airframe + Blades
Engine
Muffler
3 cyclic servos
1 Tail servo
1 throttle servo
receiver
Battery pack
voltage regulator
Govenor
Gyro
Fuel tube.
Fuel filter.

(is that everything to complete the heli?)

And then extra stuff specific to nitros.

Starter
Fuel + fuel cap
Fuel pump
Glowplugs
Thing to warm the glowplugs up with (i forget the name)

So what did I forget?

Thanks guys

At the moment im looking at a 50 size as its big enough to handle most conditions and wont use as muh fuel as a 90.

Hi.You may need to budget for a starter wand depending on which model you get but i dont think there are many cone start anymore.

Dave.

[trillian]

If you want to start at the least expense you can use a decent nimh battery before plunking down for the regulator and LiPo, you can also fly without a governor and add it later.

There was another thread some time ago that got into the cost of field gear and I had figured out what my stuff costs and it is really minimal expense but does the job.

I just put a switchglo on one of my helis and then still ended up having to use one of the £10.00 glow heaters when the switchglo didn't 'glo' (I'm going to try it again though as it would be convenient)

[darryl]

Not trying to high jack your thread or anything, I've got basically a brand spanking new heavily modded raptor 50 titan and hyper 50 & mp5 pipe in the for sale section. I have other bits of brand new unused electronics for sale as well. I could do you a very good deal to get you started

[Holst]

Instead of buying it all together why not get a couple of bits per month? Thats what I did, it takes a while to get everything but at least you can take your time over building it

I have a feild box going spare, £20 plus postage or free if you wanna collect from North Yorks?

I think I have something that will do as a field box.

I have the money, im just not sure if I want to spend this much on a heli..

I will have a look at fastlads then and see how much this lot is going to set me back, I will post a list in a bit.

[Holst]

Fastlads didnt have everything I was looking at in stock but its pretty close to a grand all up.... (thats all higher spec stuff, I can probably chop a couple of hundred off if I opt for cheaper options like a 401 over the DS760)

[waveydavey]

Ive been thinking about buying a nitro for a few weeks but I want to work out the cost before I decide if I can afford it.

So I will need.

Airframe + Blades Yep
Engine Theres going to be a big hole in the airframe without one
Muffler BMFA level is 82db so defo
3 cyclic servos 9255's
1 Tail servo 9254
1 throttle servo Anything you have lying around
receiver It's a lawnmower without one
Battery pack Yep
voltage regulator Not necessarily
Govenor Not necesarily
Gyro Definitely
Fuel tube. Yep
Fuel filter. Defo

(is that everything to complete the heli?)

And then extra stuff specific to nitros.

Starter You'll be looking at it proudly on the bench otherwise
Fuel + fuel cap Handy (the cap that it)
Fuel pump Empty tank otherwise
Glowplugs You know it
Thing to warm the glowplugs up with (i forget the name) Strangely enough Glowstick

So what did I forget?

Thanks guys

At the moment im looking at a 50 size as its big enough to handle most conditions and wont use as muh fuel as a 90.

Go for it you know you want to. Theres nothing like it. Tried the silent flight thing, not the same buzz. Seriously if your thinking about it just do it. Theres some fantastic SH bargains around, you will get put fuel in and start for less than £400. Good luck with it

[waveydavey]

Fastlads didnt have everything I was looking at in stock but its pretty close to a grand all up.... (thats all higher spec stuff, I can probably chop a couple of hundred off if I opt for cheaper options like a 401 over the DS760)

Don't do the 401, buy Brit and go for the CSM 720. Plenty will disagree and say the 401 is the muts but I had drift nightmares until I swopped for a 720, and they are cheaper.

[Holst]

Don't do the 401, buy Brit and go for the CSM 720. Plenty will disagree and say the 401 is the muts but I had drift nightmares until I swopped for a 720, and they are cheaper.

I wasnt saying I would use a 401, I just used that as an example of how I had chosen expensive components.

[dam74]

Holst it's quite simple it's called a Glow Starter
They cost around 12-20gbp (some probably more than that). I purchased a Ripmax Glow Starter and Charger from Hobbystores around the 15gbp mark but it's fairly simple. Some have the amount of charge left in the starter so you can monitor it out in the field.

Think you'll need around 20% nitro fuel for helis (might vary not sure, new myself and haven't taken mine up yet). Which varies in costs from around 20gbp to 30gbp a gallon depending on your supplier. I think Hobbystores was closer to 30gbp.

You said Battery Pack on that list but think you mean the LIPO/Battery pack for powering the RX?

Don't forget you'll also need a 12vdc battery pack to power the electric starter to put on the starter shaft.
Hobbystores stock them for around £18gbp. If only I had waited a week and I could of flogged a larger mAH ones from work that we use for Fire Alarm Sounder Panel battery backups

Some other things you'll need are a glow plug wrench which comes in handy for removing glow plug and if you chose the right one you can use it to remove the clutch/flywheel nut on the crankshaft.
I had a socket in my tool box that did the job. Some other things that are handy are gear pulleys for removing the clutch/flywheel at a later date if you decide to.

Think you covered most gear required.

[unwind-protect]

Don't forget you'll also need a 12vdc battery pack to power the electric starter to put on the starter shaft.

You can always use a 3S lipo from your 450. Even after being used for flight, mine still have plenty left for starting the nitro.

If you have a multipurpose charger (BC-6 or whatever) you can just buy the glow starter without the charger.

[trillian]

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Think you'll need around 20% nitro fuel for helis (might vary not sure, new myself and haven't taken mine up yet). Which varies in costs from around 20gbp to 30gbp a gallon depending on your supplier. I think Hobbystores was closer to 30gbp.

A bit over £20.00 but not £30.00!

I am just trying some fuel (Southern Modelcraft or 'moglo') that is under £20.00 a gallon (of course the slightly confusing thing is some sell in a US gallon and some come in 5 litre bottles)

[moyesboy]

Your fuel can be delivered to the door from rapicon, 30% is £22 a gallon (£84 box delivered). The 12% you want will be a lot cheaper.

Gyro - get the CSM720 if you are buying new (do a search on here about the 760 )
A used GY401 would save some money and you wont know the difference until you try to do complex manoevres with the heli spinning round. New the 401 is now overpriced. A genuine one is nailed with no drift at all (recently there were some counterfit ones - not copies, true counterfit...).

Yuo can just use a nimh rx pack (sub C cells, 2500-3500 capacity). Either 5v or 6v. It will take forever to charge with the normal tx/rx wall charger though so then you need a field charger (eg jamara pro peak plus about £20). That will charge your glow stick too.

If you want to use a lipo/regulator then use the align 2 in 1. you will need a lipo charger but you won't need a glow stick then as it does the glow starter.

Yuo can start the heli with a battery drill that has reverse and a sawn off allen key. In some situations such as extreme cold with a worn motor it won't spimn it fast enough - but it worked for me for a whole season.

If you join a club and fly with others you are going to need some help to begin with anyway so you can pimp some of the field equipment until you decide what to get. In a club there are always folks leaving and selling stuff so you might find a starter and a glow stick etc.