Thunder Tiger Innovator "Suff"

[tiddler]

Any news / response from Amerang?

Hi Edmund,

Well I spoke to their service dept aver the phone, but they couldn't help, so I emailed Robert as you suggested and he said his engineer was on holiday for a week and that he had forwarded my problem on to the guys at TT.

They did get back to him saying they believe its probably the batteries memory that's been damaged and that they would replace it. They just needed to know which type it was.

Robert then got back to me last Friday with this news and I told him which battery it was. Since then I've heard nothing more. Guess I just need to hang on a bit and give them a chance to sort this out.

[EtheAv8r]

That sounds like a result. When I had a problem early on, Robert came through with free replacement parts and I was well impressed.

[tiddler]

Well Ive finally received a replacement battery from Amerang and it seems ok, the Innovator recognizes it and spools up ok, although I haven't had a chance to fly with it yet. Suppose I should break it in gently.

Thought I would try and salvage the cells from the pack with the damaged memory and had a go at opening the casing, but alas I managed to pierce the pack slightly, so Ive given up on that idea and its ended up in a bucket of salt water. Seems an awful waste just because of a firmware update, but at least I'm not out of pocket.

[EtheAv8r]

Well that seems like as pretty fair result from Amerang, and from what you said in an earlier post there were other 'funny aspects' about that battery so maybe it would have played up on you anyway?

Other distributers (with the exception of Horizon) might not have played so well...

[trig]

New Innovator owner with questions!

Hello all, I am the proud new owner of an Innovator Expert and I am seriously impressed with this helicopter!! I have had it in the air a couple of times now and have been truly amazed by how stable and easy to fly it is! I am fairly new to this hobby and I am a self taught novice still getting to grips with hovering. I can’t wait for some extra batteries to turn up so I can keep it in the air for long. I have found the setup process and software programming easy to understand an idea for someone like me. I do however have a couple of issues that I would like some advice on:

1. Whilst hovering I am having to use virtually full left rudder trim, to hold the nose from creeping to the right. Is there a way of dialling this out with the software?
2. I think that I have too much negative pitch setup mechanically on the helicopter. I setup a pitch curve in the software 0,25,50,75,100 and loaded this into the Innovator. I did this as a way of finding out the pitch range and not to fly with these settings. Using a pitch gauge I then measured the rotor pitch with the following results:
Low stick = -14.5
Mid stick = -5.5
High stick = +4
This gives me a maximum pitch range of 18 degrees which is great; however I was expecting mid stick to read 0 and max/min reading being equally +/-. Do I need to mechanically setup 0 degrees pitch at mid stick (with a 0,25,50,75,100 pitch curve), by adjusting the link rods? Or am I making a newbie mistake / assumption?

I hope someone out there will be able to put me straight on these issues. Baring in mind myself taught status can any helpful soul keep the responses to step by step idiot guides. Also sorry if these questions have already been answered previously in this thread, I have look through all the great information here but could not spot an answer to these.

Many thanks,
Trig

[EtheAv8r]

To resolve your rudder trim issue you have a number of options:

A – yes you can put in trim offsets in the software, but I never did….
B – If you bind and calibrate with trim offset on, then the offset becomes the ‘neutral’ and if you get it right, then after the bind you will have neutral with the trimmer at, or close to the centre. If I recall correctly, you have the trim set opposite to where you think it should be when you callibrate, but I cannot quite remember….. so experiment and test carefully.
C – The way I did it was to ensure the rudder linkage at mid stick, neutral trim, the rudder servo output arm vertical, and the linkage length set so that the rudder has about 6-7 degrees offset from centre so it counteracts the torque correctly with the stick and trim in neutral. Then when you bind and callibrate it works perfect, and travel limits are all correctly set.

WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much negative pitch, you want about -4 max to start as a beginner, moving to more as you desire and progress. My starting pitch curves are clearly documented in my initial post (2).

I always used software to set curves, all links to standard lengths, except to tweak for tracking. I preferred mechanically setup close to 0 degrees pitch at mid stick (50) but did not worry too much about this and close was good enough with the software and pretty much standard length links. What pitch you have at mid-stick is personal preference...... 0 or 4-5 degrees IMHO there is no 'right' way, but I like the same pitch from -25% stick to +25% stick so there is no pitch change when changing flight mode.

[wgt40w]

Newbie MD530 Question

Hi to all on this thread & particularly Edmund,
Am newbie to forum. I have an MD530 onto which I have fitted a Fat Shark FPV camera connecting to goggles. I want to fly via FPV - BUT
I find the heli not as stable as various items all over the internet have led me to believe. Some people refer to an MD530 as being capable of a "10 second hands-off hover" - mine isn't. I can fly it, early on I had various crashes - the 'fall-out-of-the-sky' type, before I discovered the need to put the throttle trim up.
So my question is:- can anyone supply me with the most stable (boring you may say) settings to put into the pc software - to give me the best chance of trying FPV without an instant flying fatality??