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  • #1

    Near-Miss

    This morning I came very close to writing off the 600NSP. I am have a little difficulty with turning back to the right after crossing in front from right to left. I have no problem turning right when the heli is in front of me. I seem to loose the visual aspect of when the heli is level and today ended up with a massive side slip that required quick reactions and lots of collective to recover without incident. Soooo close!

    Does anyone have ideas/tips on what to watch on the heli - looking at the skids doesn't seem to work for me. A friend has suggest hi-vis tape on the outside of the skids???

    I am sure its just a matter of practice...I have no problems with this manoeuvre (or more advanced stuff) on Phoenix.
    Shaun.

    Proud owner of an Eddie Gold Star.



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  • #2
    just look at the heli works for me, looking at the skids doesnt help you if your inverted up high! lol

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    • #3
      This is why I've still got training gear on.

      The fluoro-balls make it far more obvious what's going on (esp as I made such a mess of the wiring I can't get the canopy on...)

      Obviously I want to get the TG off, but right now it makes it much easier.
      Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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      • #4
        made the same mistake last week when looking at the skids ,it did make my heart rate jump and on the way back to the pits one of the guys said there's a big box of wipes over there i think you need them lol but i am now trying to look at the heli as a whole.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by scallybert View Post
          This is why I've still got training gear on.

          The fluoro-balls make it far more obvious what's going on (esp as I made such a mess of the wiring I can't get the canopy on...)

          Obviously I want to get the TG off, but right now it makes it much easier.
          I lost the training gear as soon as I could land without problems, the vibration that it induces can upset the heli - especially the gyro.
          Shaun.

          Proud owner of an Eddie Gold Star.



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          • #6
            Originally posted by shaun.e View Post
            I lost the training gear as soon as I could land without problems, the vibration that it induces can upset the heli - especially the gyro.
            Hated flying mine with it on - lost it after 2 flights.
            Brian


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            • #7
              I find concentrating on the skids makes the whole problem much worse: I tried it at the weekend to see what would happen and nearly lost it - avoid!
              Raptor 90 SE FBL e-conversion, Raptor E720, Raptor E820, Synergy E7, Goblin 700 & TREX 700N

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              • #8
                Having a canopy that is split with 2 very bright colours helps loads, i also highly recommend orange skids. I have them fitted to my 600 electric and they help loads IMO. I have yellow ones fitted too the 500 and they aint so good Dont just rely on the skids for reference though. Look at the heli as a whole. Many reference points depending on position of the helicopter... canopy/skids/rotor disk/horizontal and vertical fins (if you colour them)
                Last edited by Made2Fade; 15-06-2009, 09:30 PM.
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                • #9
                  ...and anyway Shaun, you really need to get that first crash behind you!
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                  • #10
                    Surely it was a near-hit, not a near-miss? How can you nearly miss something? You either miss it or nearly hit it?



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Si Goodchild View Post
                      ...and anyway Shaun, you really need to get that first crash behind you!
                      Thanks Si - Top advice.
                      Shaun.

                      Proud owner of an Eddie Gold Star.



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Manager View Post
                        Surely it was a near-hit, not a near-miss? How can you nearly miss something? You either miss it or nearly hit it?



                        No serious posts were harmed during the authoring of the above.
                        Not really, for example if two aircraft come into close proximity during flight, the captain is required by the CAA/FAA to file an 'Air-Miss' report. As I work in the RAF, the term near miss is in common use for a wide range of events when things go wrong or do not quite work out as planned.
                        Last edited by shaun.e; 16-06-2009, 08:42 PM.
                        Shaun.

                        Proud owner of an Eddie Gold Star.



                        T-Rex 450 SE V2, Maniacs, Kontronik Jazz ESC, Microheli Tail
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                        T-Rex 600NSP, Maniac 603's
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                        • #13
                          Always here to help, Shaun!
                          Raptor 90 SE FBL e-conversion, Raptor E720, Raptor E820, Synergy E7, Goblin 700 & TREX 700N

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Si Goodchild View Post
                            Always here to help, Shaun!
                            Cheers Si, I am going to try the hi-vis undercarriage legs as suggested by Lee. I'll probably do the cheap version first thought - dayglo !
                            Shaun.

                            Proud owner of an Eddie Gold Star.



                            T-Rex 450 SE V2, Maniacs, Kontronik Jazz ESC, Microheli Tail
                            T-Rex 500 CF, DS510's, Maniacs, Torque Tube Tail Drive
                            T-Rex 600NSP, Maniac 603's
                            T-Rex 600ESP, Maniac 603's, DS610's
                            T-Rex 700LE, Maniacs, DS610's, Solid-G/BLS251, ElyQ Reg
                            Futaba FF7 2.4 GHz
                            Phoenix Sim

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shaun.e View Post
                              Cheers Si, I am going to try the hi-vis undercarriage legs as suggested by Lee. I'll probably do the cheap version first thought - dayglo !
                              Get the bright orange ones, i have them on my 600e and 700 they look great and definately show up better.
                              Lee
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