What price for second hand DX7?

[Ashley Davis]

true, but with good radio and servos you may need to move the sticks less for the same 3D move (ie. not correcting all the servo inaccuracies, latency from pilot to heli etc etc)

[raptorheli2]

when you look at some of the new set moves we need speed from our stuff.....you try crack chaos with an s148!

cheers

[Smoothound]

Paul I reckon you have just set a challenge for someone far better than me

[simm0]

its like this for me...
im a really good pilot and can show off using moderate servo etc..and then stefan gets my helicopter and it looks super fast and accurate.
pitch control and ability cannot be purchased give stef a 9x2 and me a dx7 and he still kick my arsei need slower resolution haha
regards craig

[Tim Procter]

Back to the old scenario isnt it.

If a guy wants something new then buy it whether its better or not (Obviously better in Ashley's case) but we always get the debate "Why"

I don't need a new PC monitor really because my 7 year old Ilyama 19" does the job fine.

Today Ive bought a new 24" Dell because I want one.

[simm0]

if you watch my clubman 3d flight back in 2005 when i crashed.my cyclic response wasnt fast enough (honest)and i crashed putting me fourth..but i did a sudden stop thing, but to low my fault technology would have got me out of it.but still cant blame my heli ???? or can can i ??? haha
cheers craig simmons..ps it was in my top five fly off's

[Smoothound]

I just wonder what the difference in cost between a 8915 and a 610 gearset is in a crash though...

[Ashley Davis]

Correct Tim, I'm getting one because

1) I can
2) I want to see if it's any different to a standard DX7

[raptorheli2]

little story from my own experience.

i have a rex 600n that i rarely use. it has 9255 digis in it i bought when they were the in thing and all kitted out as per usual. i was using sab blades, 14mz with the 14ch rx at the time.

a mate comes to the club with the same heli bar a few upgrades i had (metal grips and better dampers) and i had a shot. he was using a 9zap2 and i was only setting it up for him with his new spartan before handing it back. i tried a few things to see if tail was holding ok etc and to my amazement it felt better than my heli! i said what bloody servos are in this thing..........perhaps i shouldn't have asked as the reply was "8 quid tower pro digis from ebay"........OHHHHHH FEEEEEK. the world caved in right there and then and i thought wtf is point in this fancy gear when, with all due respect, this cheaper setup was better. it felt sharper, stops were FAR nicer.

anyways, long story short, it turns out it was his blades (maniacs) that were better than my new grey sabs. since then i have flown nothing but maniacs and i'm now pleased to say my 600 feels better than the other one...PHEW. my point is it goes to prove one thing in the chain could make or break "good" stuff and "cheap" stuff.

cheers

[Ashley Davis]

bugger, I forgot one reason ....

3) I want to tell Trev his 10FG is SLOW...... lol

[Tim Procter]

Correct Tim, I'm getting one because

1) I can
2) I want to see if it's any different to a standard DX7

Bang on the nail.

[simm0]

bugger, I forgot one reason ....

3) I want to tell Trev his 10FG is SLOW...... lol

yeah get a better one..thats good enough for me ((joke))
regards craig

[Smoothound]

Maybe I'm just getting bitter and twisted because I'm currently skint????

Nope not true, I'm just curious, i'm all for using proper servos rather than 148's or 591's but it's a bit like HiFi and the Law of Diminishing Returns

I've been there before, buying stuff and raving about it because I was the daft git that stumped up my hard earned for it but in reality it was not really any better than something that cost a third of the price...

[Smoothound]

bugger, I forgot one reason ....

3) I want to tell Trev his 10FG is SLOW...... lol

Don't say that or all the switchers will start switching back to Spektrum

[moyesboy]

A new DX7 tx only is £140 from inwoods (complete with rx for under £200 I think).
I would say more like £80 tops for just the tx ash!

Latency and accuracy of the radio has to become insignificant compared to the servo centring, mechanical slop, and pilot hand-eye coordination at some point. I'm very interested to see if Ash can tell the difference between the DX7 and DX7SE. The SE in my opinion is just a marketing game so they can respond to futaba's claim that their radio is the the fastest and most accurate avaiable. Futaba must have seen some large proportion of their market share go to spektrum and its no suprise that there are rumours popping up that this or that on the spektrum might not be perfect, such as the one about spektrum in the cold that so far doesn't seem to be substatiated (the swedes seem hapy at below -20C anyway).

As regards the align 610 servos - according to the specs the speed and centering is good - but maybe they got some brittle case plastic from Robs experience. The first mouldings out of a batch can often be brittle until they take on moisture on the shelf.
The align 510 servo in my trex500 seem to fly the heli much like the BLS451 servos in my 600n. I do notice that the JR8231 servos on the swash of my knight are definitely not as quick or as accurate - but they are still good enough for what I can do.

Upgrading all the gear can become obsessive and a money pit. Once you tried really good kit then its not so nice to fly with slower servos that don't centre so well. Just like you get used to 30% and no longer enjoy 20% fuel. It is better in the long run to hold back on the upgrades and spend on burning fuel or buying extra lipos.