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    I hadn't flown for over 7 weeks because of being away at work.

    I had a couple of flights on my G570 to try and shake the rust off, then when my confidence was coming back switched to my new favourite, my 690SX. I was just trying to get my rhythm back and was switching between inverted forwards and inverted backwards when due to rust and a fairly poor sky got my orientation completely wrong, made a correction the wrong way, I was too close to the ground so when I applied negative collective thinking I was going to gain altitude the heli shot sideways and before I had time to correct my new favourite heli was in the ground in pieces. I've now got the expense of the rebuild to look forward to and more importantly the loss of flying time....

    Except that's not what happened! I made a total tit of my reverses, corrected the wrong way, realised what was going to happen, flicked rescue, the heli self righted and shot skywards, no harm done! I then practiced the manoeuvre half a dozen times until I was happy, carried on flying and took my new heli home in one piece!

    I treat rescue modes like smartphones now. I never knew I needed one until I had one. Now I honestly won't fly without one. They give me so much confidence and what's more, I enjoy flying so much better now with them. I was using the neo yesterday and without a doubt it has already paid for itself.

    There are so many good fbl units out there now but I honestly don't think I'll fly one unless it has a rescue mode now.

    I'm just wondering if anybody else is the same as me now?

    I really hope all fbl manufacturers go this way as for me now, they really are important.

    Paul.
    Goblin 380 - Vbar Control and Neo
    Goblin 570 - Spirit
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    T-rex 700LE.... the "Giraffe"! - Spirit
    T-rex 700E DFC Pro - Spirit

  • #2
    i have one neo with rescue and 3 just on pro because i need 135 swash, i have put rescue on 600n dfc as basher but as yet no tried it.
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    • #3
      Yeah, rescue is nice and I'm sure before long all FBL controllers will have it as standard. I've got a Spirit pro in my G630 which has recue function and I've used it in testing many times and it works great but I've never had to use it in anger.

      The big weakness of almost all these rescue systems though is that they rely on you hitting a switch. I think in a lot of cases in a genuine panic situation I might not have the presence of mind and time to hit the switch before it was too late. Where I do have the presence of mind and time then I probably have a decent chance of recovering the heli 'manually' anyway. That's not to say that rescue wont prevent some crashes, which is better than nothing, but I don't kid myself that it eliminates any chance of a crash. As an aside... I know of a number of crashes that have been caused by rescue!
      Goblin Kraken, SoXos Strike 7, XLPower Specter, Goblin Black Thunder T, Goblin 700 Speed, Goblin 770 Comp Carbon, Trex 700X, Kasama Dune, Henseleit TDR

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      • #4
        I have to admit also the Neo rescue is very very good.

        Ive used it probably 100 times testing it out in different situations and its flawless,ive also used it twice in anger while practising new stuff where i lost orientation,probably coulda recovered it myself both times but i just hit rescue and let it deal with it.

        In practice as intended its very intuitive to use and is a real confidence booster to push,i give myself breathing space in altitude so approach it as if it was a Simulator.

        I am now practising hard to crack some moves so expect to keep it busy,on top of that im using mainly a Rex 700 Dominator for this which is totally expendable to me so care even less about it.

        I have it on 4 models now.

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        • #5
          I've tested a few rescues on FBL units and so far I have tested the Neo, neutron and beast X. The only one that appears to work properly out of those 3 is the Neo.
          The Neuron goes of to one side and holds rescue for 5 seconds and the beast X did the same, also the Beast X in stability mode was problematic as it continually tilted hard left and got worse each time I tried it!
          Obviously I can't gauge the spirit and Ikon as I haven't had any experience with them.

          On the Neo, if you pirouette the the model whilst inverted, hold the pirouette and hit rescue it does a perfect piroflip back to right way up. Its a great party trick when done a metre of the deck

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          • #6
            The Spirit rescue has some really good features. It's got three modes:
            1. Normal rescue: This works the same as the Neo, flips the heli upright and climbs away (downside it you need some altitude to do the flip)
            2. Rescue delay: Levels to the nearest orientation (upright or inverted), climbs away then (if inverted) flips to upright after reaching safe altitude.
            3. Acro rescue: levels the heli to nearest orientation and climbs, and stays in the same orientation (no flip to upright if rescue was inverted)


            I've used all modes and they all work perfectly 'as advertised'. I now use option 2 as it's 'the best of both worlds' in that you need less altitude in hand to perform a rescue, but the heli still ends up upright after completion. The only thing you need to watch with the Spirit is not to set cyclic ring too high otherwise the rescue flip is so violent that it risks boom strike.
            Last edited by Grumpy; 18-03-2016, 12:18 PM.
            Goblin Kraken, SoXos Strike 7, XLPower Specter, Goblin Black Thunder T, Goblin 700 Speed, Goblin 770 Comp Carbon, Trex 700X, Kasama Dune, Henseleit TDR

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            • #7
              Rescue Pro on the NEO is a big plus for me. I had to use it yesterday for the first time on the Protos and it saved the day.

              After the initial test stage I've only had to use it 3 times so far. It's given me confidence to get moves to the field quicker and to push my flying. Next time I'm out I'm going to try atomiccomp suggestion and see how well it Piroflips lol

              Rich
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              • #8
                Yes i have done the rescue piroflips with mine also,hover inverted and piro and hit it,does a lovely job.

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                • #9
                  Ask George J about rescue mode
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                  I use VBar control because it's feckin awesome I use NEO rescue when I remember to
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                  • #10
                    Halarious Donald! What that nob above is trying to say is that it won't save you everytime especially if flying hard and low as you literally will not hit the switch in time as proven a few weeks ago when I totalled my 700 nitro!

                    However, I've used it maybe 6 times for real and I may have saved some of them but at least two of those the heli was 100% going in so like I say it won't save everything but you're bloody glad when it does save one, it really comes into its own though when trying something new when the heli is high.

                    Anyway, I don't really care what people say it's got to be a good thing if you manage to save just one heli by hitting a switch.
                    George

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                    • #11
                      I need rescue in my life, was hoping Spartan would sort it but sadly no


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by George J View Post
                        Halarious Donald! What that nob above is trying to say is that it won't save you everytime especially if flying hard and low as you literally will not hit the switch in time as proven a few weeks ago when I totalled my 700 nitro

                        I call BS Georgina

                        ya lost it ya saved it ya lost it again ya binned it end of
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                        New Logo 550
                        Synergy N5c
                        TSA 700E night flier
                        I use VBar control because it's feckin awesome I use NEO rescue when I remember to
                        5 x EGS thingys and a Platinum star doo dah

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                        • #13
                          Definitely. Having rescue has helped me progress enormously faster. Even on a 450 it pays for itself, as well as saving a lot of repair time.

                          Next trick: autorotations. The tail on my Protos failed a couple of weeks ago. Spirit rescue brought it in to a nice inverted piro-hover... I tried an autorotation to bring it down, but didn't complete the flip and had a slightly hard landing (bent spindle). In hind-sight it might have been better to try a piro-flip first.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by milly0812 View Post
                            I call BS Georgina

                            ya lost it ya saved it ya lost it again ya binned it end of
                            Like I said it won't help you everytime and certainly doesn't help you if you don't hit the switch!
                            George

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                            • #15
                              For sure there are some situations where rescue won't actually rescue but there are many where it most certainly will! Of course you need to be practiced in flipping the switch but if you practice it becomes as natural as hitting throttle hold.

                              As for the types of rescue, I use acro rescue which grumpy described earlier on the spirit and it's always worked flawlessly. The rescue on the neo which saved my @rse yesterday self levels then gains altitude. The self levelling bit really scared me as I was far too close to the ground but it definitely worked!! Did the job perfectly... just a bit harder on the nerves!

                              Like I've said I'm a big fan of the rescue and I never ever thought I'd say this but a rescue is a prerequisite now for me when buying a fbl system.

                              Paul.
                              Goblin 380 - Vbar Control and Neo
                              Goblin 570 - Spirit
                              Logo 690SX V2 - Vbar Control and Neo
                              T-rex 700LE.... the "Giraffe"! - Spirit
                              T-rex 700E DFC Pro - Spirit

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