Nitro Resurgence - What's Up?

[trillian]

Well for me I spat my lolly out when I was having a bloody nightmare with a couple of 50's that wouldnt run right for love nor money, And I had just sampled the gooey goodness that is Goblin ownership. So I upped and sold the bloody lot and bought a load of Goblins.

Regretted every second of it. Not because of the Goblins, I just missed having a great 90 sized nitro in my fleet.

I now have a Synergy N9 and have just bought a Trex 700n this morning.

For me electric is where its at, you cant beat the simplicity, ease of use and overall the amount of fooking power they produce! But there is just something about a decent nitro that cant be beat imho

There was a time when all I wanted to fly was .90 nitro and my Trex 500. Now I mainly fly 90/700 size electrics and love the (.50) Knight 3D, it's so good as the everyday 'beater'.

What I'm wondering is who bought all those Raptor 90s that FL was blowing out some months back? Somewhere there must be a bunch of them being flown but I haven't seen one yet at the places I fly.

Regarding the flight times issue, I lowered the headspeeds on a couple 700 electrics and get just as good flight times as a nitro. But I'm in the group that never left nitro and went all electric. Now I recently got a gasser again after selling my Century Predator a while back so I'm keen to see what the gasser world is like now, only with a much better airframe this time.

[electricsceadu]

nitro never went away
it just took a side step
there is room for electric and nitro
but the next thing to rock nitro models is the new lines of petrol engines working their way into the planks and ic cars, based on a nitro crank case and no longer the huge strimmer engines
they do seem to work well in the planks, i've not seen a car run yet, only sat on display at a model shop

i fly nitro (never stopped)
i do have a 450 electric and a 550 electric heli
and 3 electric planks
i also fly gasser heli's

[Made2Fade]

Nitro never disappeared for me. I simply fly electric in the summer and nitro in the winter. Nitro engines produce more power in the winter time (due to cold dense air - meaning you richen your mixture to compensate - rich mixture = more fuel through engine = more power produced). And to be fair if your flying electric helicopters in these temperatures then your damaging your packs (unless you have a system for keeping them warm before flying). They dont produce the same power in these cold temps. By the time the pack warms up in flight its time to land anyways. These are the main reasons i fly each power set in a suitable season.

[Raptormad2]

I fly mostly electric in the cold weather when you don't want to be down the field too long freezing to death and you only have to take your hands out your
Pockets to change a lipo and fly, and yes trillian I couldn't resist one of those rappy 90se's along with two others in our Club bloody bargain.

[Crumpet]

you tend not to hang on to a nitro where a leccy you hold back

Out of interest, could you rephrase that in a longer, noobier explanation?

Thanks bud

[hedge]

The rotor play 3D heli comp was held in Holland last year and for the first time they ran a special event - Nitro cup. Also the UK F3N COMP two pilots Rachel and Chris flew nitro. The more exposure they get at the comps will filter down and open the door to people to try nitro and as was said earlier hopefully this will push the price of fuel back down. FWIW I still reckon for a 700 class machine flight per min there is a cigarette paper between leccy and nitro costs.

[waveydavey]

Out of interest, could you rephrase that in a longer, noobier explanation?

Thanks bud

I'll try, with a 700 sized electric with some exceptions you are looking at somewhere around the 12lb upwards mark. Because of the way the weight is distributed and the instant power they can easily get away from you, you don't have to push hard for the model to pick up a lot of speed only for you to have to try and slow it down. Whereas with a nitro you have to push it to get it going and as soon as you let off with the gas the heli will slow up as the weight is less and carries less momentum, the longer the flight goes on the lighter the model gets. A nitro model will float (not a good choice of word but can't think of a more descriptive one) more than a leccy.

[Gate88]

I go both ways!


But enough about my personal life and back on topic...

I have both but if I could only have one I'd go Nitro, just cause some days I'll spend hours charging packs for my Logo only to get to the club to find I can't fly cause of the weather etc then have to go home and spend ages "storage" charging. I'm the most irresponsible person I know and should not be put in charge of hundreds of pounds worth of batteries that need tender loving care and constant attention! They're worse than tropical fish!
With my N's just quickly charge a flight pack & Tx and your off flying as much or as little as you like. Sure you don't spend time cleaning E's & there's less maintainance but once you factor in the time spent fannying about charging/discharging there's not much in it!
i like a bit of noise & smoke too, my old eyes aren't too clever and when I get distracted/lose concentration it's easier to locate when it's screaming and chuffing out fumes!!!!

[Planehazza]

Deja Vu

[Nick B]

I love nitro.

I just don't like the mess,the smell,engine cutting,changing clunk tubes,changing plugs,nitro in the mouth,leaky bungs and renewing rear bearings.Everything else i love which are as follows...

Longer flights.
Um,um........um.......er....um

Oh yeah,not having to charge and having packs sat charged if for some reason you can't get out.

[Gate88]

I love nitro.

I just don't like the mess,the smell,engine cutting,changing clunk tubes,changing plugs,nitro in the mouth,leaky bungs and renewing rear bearings.

Woah woah woah there Nick!

For sake of an argument I'll go along with you on most of that but....

"Nitro in the mouth"?

I know some people love their helis but if you're exchanging bodily fluids with 'em then you need a whole different kind of forum!

[Nick B]

Come on Guy,for some reason we have all managed it.......and after we say "wtf did i just do that"

[gazmk2]

I started flying nitro as a means of forcing myself proper.collective management! Especially when said nitro happens to be a raptor 30 on throttle curves. I now have a Hirobo shuttle rg which is also os32 powered but this has a governer. I fly mostly electric but when my batteries are out (or I couldn't be bothered to charge up) I have session on the nitros.

In fact I will have either the raptor or the shuttle with me every time I go out flying these days!

[Gate88]

Come on Guy,for some reason we have all managed it.......and after we say "wtf did i just do that"

Yes, that was exactly my excuse after the unfortunate incident when I was found in a crotchless nuns suit with an industrial vacuum cleaner hose and the Vaseline covered gerbil!

[electricsceadu]

Yes, that was exactly my excuse after the unfortunate incident when I was found in a crotchless nuns suit with an industrial vacuum cleaner hose and the Vaseline covered gerbil!