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    Hi,

    I'm new(ish) to RC Helicopters and after flying with 3ch for a couple of months I have decided to get a 4ch fixed pitch helicopter (probably the mSR x & Phoneix for practice). I am probably going to get a BNF version so I can buy a programmable transmitter, most likley a Spektrum model so I can use it as I grow.

    I know I need at minimum a 6 channel TX and understand this will cover most requirements, but I would like to know if there is any advantage to getting a 7 or 8 channel TX.
    Blade mCPx V2
    Align T-Rex 550E FL (Talon 90, Align 3GX, AR6210)
    DX6i
    Phoenix Sim
    Basildon RC Helis - http://basildonrchelis.rcha-uk.com/

  • #2
    I started off with a 6-channel DX6i and that was fine for everything in my current fleet (up to and including my Trex 500). I only recently purchased a DX8, but not because I needed the extra channels ( I don't) - more because I wanted a backlit LCD screen and two flight modes. For me, the DX7 was a non-starter as it doesn't have a backlit LCD.

    In short, whilst extra channels are useful - especially if you're interested in scale, and want to control retractable landing gear, onboard lights etc - they're not the driving factor I believe. It's the other little extras you get with the higher end radios that become a factor in my view (for me, the DX6i screen was difficult to read in anything but bright light).

    Obviously, I only really know the Spektrum range (most of my helis are Blade), so Futaba, JR etc will have different pros/cons - but the fundamental principle is the same.

    HTH. Tom
    Tom
    sigpic Synergy E7SE - Kontronic Helijive 120+ ESC, vBar Neo
    SAB Goblin 630 Competition
    - Castle Edge 120HV, vBar Neo
    Blade 700X - Castle Edge 160HV ESC, Mini vBar
    Logo 550SXv2 - Castle 130LV ESC, vBar Neo
    .... and a Gaui X3
    Spektrum DX8 ; Mikado VBC ; RealFlight 7 & neXt sims
    ... and two EGS'



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    • #3
      7 channels will allow a bigger range of helis / gadgets to be flown.

      The most popular are Spektrum because a wide range of smaller BNF models use that technology. I use a Futaba 7ch and that is fine too. Folks also swear by JR.

      Pay your money & take your choice.

      All the best

      David
      Happy Landings.
      David

      Winner of SEVEN of the BEST (Eddie Gold Stars)...humbled!

      Raptor 50. OS50
      Century Bell 47G in Yellow - Beautiful!
      Mcpx
      Blade 130x
      Goblin 500

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      • #4
        David - why does 7 channels allow a bigger range?

        1 - throttle
        2 - rudder
        3 - aileron
        4 - elevator
        5 - gyro gain
        6 = ??
        7 = ??

        OK, I understand the 3GX flybarless unit normally assigns gain to chan.7, meaning you need a seperate RX to use a 6-channel TX, but not sure exactly how more channels offers you a wider range of helis (unless you mean the scale features like retracts etc?)
        Tom
        sigpic Synergy E7SE - Kontronic Helijive 120+ ESC, vBar Neo
        SAB Goblin 630 Competition
        - Castle Edge 120HV, vBar Neo
        Blade 700X - Castle Edge 160HV ESC, Mini vBar
        Logo 550SXv2 - Castle 130LV ESC, vBar Neo
        .... and a Gaui X3
        Spektrum DX8 ; Mikado VBC ; RealFlight 7 & neXt sims
        ... and two EGS'



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        • #5
          Originally posted by tomatwalden View Post
          David - why does 7 channels allow a bigger range?

          (unless you mean the scale features like retracts etc?)
          Yes, that. Should have made that clearer.

          More electronics available now - so, why buy 6ch if 7ch likely to be needed at a later date?

          I made the mistake early on of buying a radio that I soon outgrew. I didn't think about future-proofing it.
          Happy Landings.
          David

          Winner of SEVEN of the BEST (Eddie Gold Stars)...humbled!

          Raptor 50. OS50
          Century Bell 47G in Yellow - Beautiful!
          Mcpx
          Blade 130x
          Goblin 500

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          • #6
            Newbie Radio Advice

            Governor, bank switching, etc.

            More use on nitro and large electric helis.
            Invertix 400
            Vortex 285
            TBS Discovery Endurance
            X4 II
            Schluter Champion Longranger
            G4 E720
            G4 E720 Big AIR edition
            Goblin Urukay super slow
            Goblin 700 KSE Slow
            Goblin 700 KSE Fast
            Srimok Faifa
            Spectra G
            Synergy 766
            I'm not controlling it, just preventing it from crashing
            http://mangled-rc.com/

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            • #7
              6/ govenor
              7/ night flying lights on off
              Martin
              Aka RCSlopesurfer

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              • #8
                Newbie Radio Advice

                Yes. 8 channel these days for fbl. I use all 8 on my futaba radio. Cyclic banks and tail banks.
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                6HV ultimate Helijive120 SK540 BLS351 BLS251
                Goblin 500 SK540 jive 100lv
                HD 500 SK540 jive 80 lv
                WARP 360 KOBY 55 SK720 MKS92a MKS95i
                Oxy 3 SK540 minijazz20





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                • #9
                  Somebody needs to create tree avoidance radar then all 8 are accounted for.
                  I have no need for bank switching that's all mixed onboard at the moment via thumbs.
                  Martin
                  Aka RCSlopesurfer

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                  • #10
                    Newbie Radio Advice

                    Martin. You not using it on your v bar machines? It's very good you know
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                    7HV Kosmik 200 cool Neo BL9180 BL9188 pyro 750/56 comp
                    6HV ultimate Helijive120 SK540 BLS351 BLS251
                    Goblin 500 SK540 jive 100lv
                    HD 500 SK540 jive 80 lv
                    WARP 360 KOBY 55 SK720 MKS92a MKS95i
                    Oxy 3 SK540 minijazz20





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                    • #11
                      I way prefer the dx8 over the dx6. It feels much more quality in the hands and the back lit LCD is essential. Also I find the programming easier as its laid out better as well...
                      Oxy 2, 180cfx, 130X
                      Goosky S1
                      DX 8 , Phoenix sim, DJI P3P

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                      • #12
                        The problem for most is that of being impatient and so they rush out and purchase the first thing they can afford.

                        My advise is if you are going to hang about in this hobby for any length of time is to save a bit longer and get an 8 channel or more transmitter. It is not so much the number of channels but the extra features the manufacturers pack in.

                        At present when it comes to bang for your buck the Futaba 8FG from Inwood Models at £220 will not be beaten.
                        Member of Mk Heli Club



                        GRAMMAR: The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit!

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                        • #13
                          I have a DX6i and a DX8...

                          The DX8 is a much better transmitter but you wouldn't need the facilities it offers as a beginner. The DX6i has all the features and facilities you might need until you start to fly much bigger helis.

                          If you have the money (over £200) and you were 110% certain that you would be sticking with the hobby, then the DX8 would be my choice but to be honest, the DX6i will do everything a beginner might want for under half the price. OK, it isn't backlit but that is easy to add if you are happy to do a bit of soldering (I have added a backlight to my DX6i) and as far as the feel goes... I can't tell a great deal of difference between them. At around £90 I think the DX6i is such great value for money it is by far the best choice for a beginner.

                          If you get a DX6i there is a good secondhand market... it would sell easily if it is in good nick.

                          EDIT: Just had Tom point out that you wanted something to grow with in which case yes, the DX8 is a great choice. I started with the DX6i but went to a DX8 within a couple of months once I knew I was sticking with the hobby. If you want to futureproof now then get the DX8.
                          Last edited by 450man; 28-12-2012, 11:04 AM. Reason: Added extra EDIT bit
                          Paul

                          MCPX
                          E-Flight Blade 450X / AR7200BX
                          Align Trex 450 Pro DFC / AR7200BX

                          Planks - WOT 4 Foam E

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Andy from Sandy View Post
                            ...

                            At present when it comes to bang for your buck the Futaba 8FG from Inwood Models at £220 will not be beaten.
                            So long as you're using mostly Futaba receivers in your helis. If you're using Blade products (eg. orig poster mentions mSR), then you need something that can "talk" DSM2 or DSMX. That means you'll need a Spektrum TX (eg. DX6i,DX8,etc.)
                            Tom
                            sigpic Synergy E7SE - Kontronic Helijive 120+ ESC, vBar Neo
                            SAB Goblin 630 Competition
                            - Castle Edge 120HV, vBar Neo
                            Blade 700X - Castle Edge 160HV ESC, Mini vBar
                            Logo 550SXv2 - Castle 130LV ESC, vBar Neo
                            .... and a Gaui X3
                            Spektrum DX8 ; Mikado VBC ; RealFlight 7 & neXt sims
                            ... and two EGS'



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tomatwalden View Post
                              So long as you're using mostly Futaba receivers in your helis. If you're using Blade products (eg. orig poster mentions mSR), then you need something that can "talk" DSM2 or DSMX. That means you'll need a Spektrum TX (eg. DX6i,DX8,etc.)
                              ... or a JR or a number of other DSM2/DSMX compatible transmitters. Spektrum isn't the only one but it is by far the best IMHO.
                              Paul

                              MCPX
                              E-Flight Blade 450X / AR7200BX
                              Align Trex 450 Pro DFC / AR7200BX

                              Planks - WOT 4 Foam E

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