FlyinFish beginners course.

[KnifeEdge]

£100 for a day's course seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Gate88]

£100 for a day's course seems pretty reasonable to me.

If you and ten of your mates ever need a course on setting up an RTF heli then give me a call and I'll do it for ninety quid a head!

Beginners guides, buying advice, setup instruction, tweaking, tuning, training, & buddy lessons all come with the price of membership at my club for just £30 a year!

[snotvis]

Guy, I think you have missed a trick! The 'at the very least' 5 hours you spent helping set my nitro up were quite good value...being completely free! But do you really think you could spend that amount of time convincing me that a Blade 450x is worth the effort and then telling me how to make it more RTF?

[ShaggyRS6]

I think for people who have the money to spend then its not a bad shout. However, not many people these days have £100 to spend on a Heli lesson. If it were me I'd be spending it on a GOOD club and i'd bet that £100 will pay dividends over that first year that your a member.

I actually considered them when I first started up. But the price put me off. I got just as good advice using this forum and making freinds through it.

[Smudgyboy]

Have to give FlyingFish credit in offering and providing a service for people who have never come across our hobby before.

To be honest I wasted so much money in the beginning, not knowing anything about helis or even this forum I would have gone to this course just to give me a taste of what was to come.

£100 won't get you a well know brand 6cell lipo, and yes you can get loads of stuff with £100, nearly a full tank a petrol in some cars.

All depends on where they advertise their service I think, not aimed at the informed obviously!

Something for nothing on your MTV!

[cupracing]

The money is best spent on a Sim IMO and all the information you need to set up a heli can be gained from the internet. Thats what most do and have done ok.

£200 an hour, I'm definitely in the wrong job!

[Smudgyboy]

..or an E-Flite Blade MCP X BnF for £108 for gate88 ;-)

[Andy from Sandy]

£100 won't get you a well know brand 6cell lipo, and yes you can get loads of stuff with £100, nearly a full tank a petrol in some cars.

You have perhaps lost sight of the fact that based on the first post it looks like you are also supposed to turn up with a £335 Blade 450X to take the course.

[Mark_T]

Have to give FlyingFish credit in offering and providing a service for people who have never come across our hobby before.

I've got no criticism of Dave for the aim and we should remember that it takes time to prepare materials for a course, it isn't just about the contact time.

Where I'm puzzled is the apparent requirement to buy a 450X which may not even be suitable for everyone based on where they fly and how they want to continue their learning process after the course.

In general terms it can work out cheaper to give your money to Dave and learn something new without crashing. Two hours training on your own heli works out at £75, 2 mins trying to do something new on your own can cost a lot more than that when you order the replacement parts online

[ShaggyRS6]

I've got no criticism of Dave for the aim and we should remember that it takes time to prepare materials for a course, it isn't just about the contact time.

Where I'm puzzled is the apparent requirement to buy a 450X which may not even be suitable for everyone based on where they fly and how they want to continue their learning process after the course.

In general terms it can work out cheaper to give your money to Dave and learn something new without crashing. Two hours training on your own heli works out at £75, 2 mins trying to do something new on your own can cost a lot more than that when you order the replacement parts online

Maybe his selling point could be to have a load of heli's on offer to try. FB FBL, 450, 500, 600 and people get 30 mins on each. They could then be better informed about what each type of heli can do and how they perform. People could then purchase the kits from him at a reduced price that part of the trianing fee covers. then he makes his money from setting them up etc.

I'd be thinking outside the box like that.

Maybe he does that already though

[PeteStewardson]

I've got no criticism of Dave for the aim and we should remember that it takes time to prepare materials for a course, it isn't just about the contact time.

Where I'm puzzled is the apparent requirement to buy a 450X which may not even be suitable for everyone based on where they fly and how they want to continue their learning process after the course.

In general terms it can work out cheaper to give your money to Dave and learn something new without crashing. Two hours training on your own heli works out at £75, 2 mins trying to do something new on your own can cost a lot more than that when you order the replacement parts online

I'm happy to field any questions people have to Dave. I can ask about the 450x requirement if it helps anyone.

Also I agree with Mark on the 1to1 flight training, works out massively cheaper than learning yourself. Yesterday I spent 2 hours flying his 600n and learnt how to get in and out of inverted without panicking and really worked on a couple of week spots. Straight after I flew my 500 and was confidently rolling inverted, and flying a bit inverted and then knew how to bail out more confidently too. The £85 I spent is easily less than a couple of crashes trying it myself.

Also the course I went on recently that Dave ran was on general maintenance and setup, 3 hours ( which lasted 5 hours almost actually ) and I came away with loads of info I probably wouldn't have got from just being at a club for a weekend. I imagine the course above will be similarly of use to a beginner.

At the end of the day many of us are worried about the hobby and how it's viewed by people outside due to some flying dangerously etc. If this course instills a mentality for safety, maintenance, and general appreciation of what the hobby entails to beginners I say well done to Dave.

[scoobystig]

Also £100 would buy you a couple of hours or so 1-to-1 which seems like a better deal?

£80 with us, so an even better deal and you get to use all our equipment for that as well !!- Cant be bad

[jamiem]

£80 with us, so an even better deal and you get to use all our equipment for that as well !!- Cant be bad

That's a bit harsh touting for business in a thread about a competitor!

[Mark_T]

£80 with us, so an even better deal and you get to use all our equipment for that as well !!- Cant be bad

I did say 'or so' but so the sake of accuracy since you have used this thread for competitive marketing, the actual prices for two hours would be £75 with your own equipment or £85 using Dave's, so not much in it really.

[AcidDrink]

Also I agree with Mark on the 1to1 flight training, works out massively cheaper than learning yourself. Yesterday I spent 2 hours flying his 600n and learnt how to get in and out of inverted without panicking and really worked on a couple of week spots. Straight after I flew my 500 and was confidently rolling inverted, and flying a bit inverted and then knew how to bail out more confidently too. The £85 I spent is easily less than a couple of crashes trying it myself.

I am all up for lessons and stuff and I actually plan to get a hour on buddy box maybe to teach me autos from 60 feet up just to avoid wrecking my own heli, but I have to disagree with what you said about lessons being a cost effective wway to learn basics.

We have simulators and little helis which cost nothing to crash to learn stuff like that. Even if you fly alone there are videos to show how to fly pretty much anything in details.

With medium level of dedication and practising on the sim (and maybe mcpx), crashing is completely avoidable and definitely learning inverted doesn't require a buddy box these days and doesn't have to cost a lot (if anything) in crashes.

If I had to choose how to spend 85£ (if I onyl have 85£ to spend), I'd order a simulator and spend 30 minutes on it every day. I can assure you that with a bit of discipline one can learn inverted and what not without crashing at all.