Newbie

[rachel]

Sorry, ignore me, I've just been on their website and says it's in Hinckley which is only just down the road and where I will be working as from the start of the new year. I'll get my self down there and have a word with them.

Humm my fault got my places mixed up , bad me , sorry.

Marx or mcpx that's a toughie ! I just worry if the mcpx is a little flighty for a newbie it sure can move fast and you have to be on the ball with it !
I think age matters here , a youngster will pick anything up in know time , where as older pilots take longer to learn.
Also the Flying site needs to be considered, an mcpx will fly outside in a reasonable wind, 15mph ish but needs a large indoor space (to start with) such as a double garage etc.

A fixed pitch heli such as the old mcx or the newer Msrx will work well and in my opinion get you in the air quicker .

Good luck and sorry you didn't get a sim yet , was it lack of stock ? If so try fast lad performance or one of the other shops that advertise on the home page.

Merry Christmas
X Rachel

[AndyX]

Humm my fault got my places mixed up , bad me , sorry.

Marx or mcpx that's a toughie ! I just worry if the mcpx is a little flighty for a newbie it sure can move fast and you have to be on the ball with it !
I think age matters here , a youngster will pick anything up in know time , where as older pilots take longer to learn.
Also the Flying site needs to be considered, an mcpx will fly outside in a reasonable wind, 15mph ish but needs a large indoor space (to start with) such as a double garage etc.

A fixed pitch heli such as the old mcx or the newer Msrx will work well and in my opinion get you in the air quicker .

Good luck and sorry you didn't get a sim yet , was it lack of stock ? If so try fast lad performance or one of the other shops that advertise on the home page.

Merry Christmas
X Rachel

Field space isn't really a problem for myself as I live on the back of field which is bigger than a football pitch.

I did get a sim yesterday as on the way I decided not to just jump in and buy everything, doing all my research first. The guys at Midlands were very helpful.

Will both the MSRX & MCPX work with a DX6i? If they do, i'll the DX6i and an MSRX, once i've got use to this then I'll probably move onto the MCPX then on the big toys after that, maybe a TRex 600 or something.

[rachel]

Yes both will bind to the dx6i

Glad midland could help they are good guys .

You idea is a good plan .

X rach

[spudly]

Hi,
I got a msrX and a couple of mcpx's.
I learnt on an MSR and 120Sr. I have the a sim which is invaluable for learning orientation. In my option you cant just learn on a sim. You need real stick time as well to put into practice things you learn on the sim.
My personal opinion is buying a big expensive bird like a Trex 600 to start with is not the way to go. It is a big outlay and you will crash and the bigger the bird the bigger the bill is. You might get put off very quickly. Others will differ on this I'm sure.

The MCPX is very fast. It can be tamed down on the DX6i but my advise is to get the msrX. Its cheap, it will fly outside, its fast and will teach you a lot. It is virtually indestructible. You could learn a huge amount for very little money and probably still sell it when your done and get a large proportion of your cash back. Its like a less agrerssive mcpx. If it works out well for you then move onto a bigger bird. You do have the benefit of being near a club which is going to be a huge help. I had to teach myself.
Good Luck,

[AndyX]

How well does the msrX fly outside? Is it affected by the wind or a slight breeze? Hopefully going to get one either today or tomorrow along with the DX6i and maybe a 450 too if I can get myself a deal on it all while i'm there. The 450 will be put to one side until i'm ready to move over to the big stuff.

[spudly]

For any small heli to fly it needs to be pretty calm. It flies really well outside and darts along. Its a huge improvement on the old MSR. Theres a few videos on youtube appearing now which will give you a good idea of its ability outside. I love it. It needs to fly outside or a large space inside to get its full benefit but you can fly inside your house happily.

If you have only flown a small coaxial then I believe this is the best step in the right direction to see if this bug really is going to bite you.

[LadyRc]

I bought a msrx for my friend who is a new flyer and its a great little heli to learn on. I agree msrx first then mcpx. Dx6i is a good idea. I use Blade Heli Spares, they have sorted me out on many occasions. Eflite NEW Blade mSRX & Spektrum DX6i Combo - mSRX combo They have a combo, good starter for a beginner. Good Luck

[AndyX]

Right, I've order a DX6i TX/DX Mode 2 and a mSR X. It'll be here tomorrow, so hopefully i'll get chance to have a play either tomorrow or Saturday.

Another question, is it worth me ordering the training gear for the mSR X?

[spudly]

I personally never bothered with training gear on a heli this size. Its extra weight and will eat into your flight time. The little bird is tough enough to take a lot of abuse. The msrx is flybarless as I am sure you are aware. When you go for lift of then you will want to pop it up in the air quite quickly and have no cyclic input until its in the air otherwise you will upset the gyro. You will also want to put it down on a flat surface quickly after connecting the battery otherwise you will confuse the gyro when it initializes.
Read around the forum and check you tube for DX6i setup. This will be a huge help in calming it down for you on the first flights and setting and using dual rates. Might want calmer rates indoors and then switch to more aggressive rates outdoors for better performance.
Good Luck.

[Darwil]

Right, I've order a DX6i TX/DX Mode 2 and a mSR X. It'll be here tomorrow, so hopefully i'll get chance to have a play either tomorrow or Saturday.

Another question, is it worth me ordering the training gear for the mSR X?

Congrats m8, good choice - have a look on here for dual rate setups for the msr they will give you something useful to start with. When you progress you will learn how to customise the setup to suit yourself.
Don't use training gear on a heli this size it's a waste of money - if you want to spend on something else get a few spares - blades and undercarriage are the most likely first spares you will need, ask me how I know?
As said before don't try to take off by gently raising the throttle it will tip, best way is to go straight to about 1/2 throttle which should get you into a hover, the correct where you want it to be by small inputs of cyclic etc. You will probably need to trim it, if it moves one way or another without input land it and apply trim on the correct control; it may take a few times until it's right but be patient and do it right - you should be able to get it to hover hands off with a bit of care; oh and another important thing it needs to be high enough up in the air (about 3ft) to get away from ground effect and wash!
Good luck and let us all know how it goes.
D

[AndyX]

Congrats m8, good choice - have a look on here for dual rate setups for the msr they will give you something useful to start with. When you progress you will learn how to customise the setup to suit yourself.
Don't use training gear on a heli this size it's a waste of money - if you want to spend on something else get a few spares - blades and undercarriage are the most likely first spares you will need, ask me how I know?
As said before don't try to take off by gently raising the throttle it will tip, best way is to go straight to about 1/2 throttle which should get you into a hover, the correct where you want it to be by small inputs of cyclic etc. You will probably need to trim it, if it moves one way or another without input land it and apply trim on the correct control; it may take a few times until it's right but be patient and do it right - you should be able to get it to hover hands off with a bit of care; oh and another important thing it needs to be high enough up in the air (about 3ft) to get away from ground effect and wash!
Good luck and let us all know how it goes.
D

What do you mean dual rate set-up, is this setting the TX to how you want it?

[rachel]

morning Andy, Dual Rates are a switch on the TX that limit the ammount of control movment , so at the flick of the switch you can have full movment, turn the switch on and you can have less movment so the heli will have less control power.

the good, less responce so easier to fly 9up to a point)
The bad,..... less responce so harder to save if crashing , lol

the answer ,........

Expo, you can input thisd in the expo setting of the tx and it makes the heli less touchey around center stick but the more you push the stich the more the responce ramps up expodentially so you still have the same limits of movment .

think of it like a sport button on a car, but in reverse , as long as you set it in the right direction, lol

your tx manual will show you how its done .

X rachel

[AndyX]

righty then... my DX6i and msR X but for some reason i'm having trouble binding them. Could some help me trouble shoot this problem?

[rob12770]

just to play the devils advocate, i got phoenix and found it quite boring after only a few minutes... try and get a loan of it before shelling out £80... sims are not everybodys cup of tea..

[spudly]

To bind your MSRX to your DX6i you need to plug battery onto MSRX and put down onto flat surface.
Then hold the trainer switch on your TX on by pulling towards you. Whilst this is held on then power on your TX. Hold the trainer switch on for a few seconds and then release. You should see bind in your LCD display. After a few seconds your MSRX will stop flashing and will be bound to your TX.
You will need to programme settings into your DX6i for your MSRX for it to fly correctly.