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  • #31
    Ok, here's my belated by the looks of things view on the whole beginner IC model thing.

    It is certainly true that when you are first learning to fly, you need all the help you can get, as the pilot has to pick up all the controls at the same time. So having a good quality heading hold gyro and decent tail servo will mean the pilot can concentrate on the other controls as the tail will take care of itself, within reason of course.

    As for choice of model, I too have seen many benefit from starting with a 50 size model as apposed to a 30. However, this grately depends on the speed at which they learn. If they have help from fellow club members or go and have some professional lessons, then the 50 is a definite candidate for a first model. If however, the pilot chooses to learn more or less solo, even with this forum it will take considerably longer to learn to hover, therefore in those circumstances a 30 size model is a far more cost effective choice as a first model.

    As to which particular manufacturer, as I have mentioned before in other posts, there is no such thing as a bad model in this day and age, sure, my personal preference is and always has been raptors, although I have had others, Hirobo, Robbe and JR for a time. The rule of thumb here tends to be find out which of them is the most popular choice at the chosen club and go for the same one. That way you can be sure that you will find someone knowledgeable and experienced with that particular model if you need help with the initial build, setting it up or maintenence / crash repairs later on.

    The other thing to consider is budget, but dont be fooled by the initial kit price, as that is only the starter for 10, the real costs come in the shape of spares for crash repairs etc. The next obvious one to think about is availability of said spares, the last thing you want is to be doing really well with a model and then not be able to fly for weeks on end because you have crashed it or something has failed and you can't get the spares, (This may sound a little exagerated, but it does happen!)

    Lastly, but still important to a lesser degree, is the looks of the model, there is no point buying a model you dont particularly like the looks of much, as a fully equipped model is a big investment and one you may well have to live with for some time, so make sure you insure as much as possible you wont simply get fed up with it after only a few short months.

    When you have decided upon which model is for you, don't then what ever you do, be tempted to spend lots of money on shiny alloy or carbon bits, as they are always more expensive to replace in a crash. Metal rotorheads are stronger and more durable than their plastic equivalents, but they still have bearings that can fail as a result of a crash. Carbon parts are well known to splinter and split in a crash, they are also disproportionally more expensive to replace than their plastic counterparts. All these good things come into their own when you can fly at least circuits and beyond, so until you reach that stage, keep things as cheap and as simple as you can.This only applies to the airframe, the radio gear and engine etc. will pay dividends to buy good quality items, as this will equal reliability and trouble free flying.

    I don't think I have missed anything have I?

    Cheers,
    Pete.
    Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
    Rise from the ashes with
    Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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    • #32
      Hiya guys, ive just got a hawk pro for 250quid ARTF and ive got a ff7. Its a really nice heli with lots of added goodies inc carbon blades!

      I started it up today and even though ive been arounf loads of IC models and helis it scared the s*it out of me! just a lil click up on the throttle was really scary! just to no that i had total control of some model that could got really rong and do some serous damage is a very wierd feeling.

      I only wanted to see if it all started ok and it did so i left it at that lol

      ive got training sticks for it aswell which gave me a little conffedence but dident get to hover it.

      Im going flying with it on wed with a few mates from work so ill let one of them see what tricks they can pull with it. ive got a sim (something G3) but i really need the connector to plug my ff7 (new type connector) into the computer so can anyone advise me.

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      • #33
        If the simulator you have is realflight G3 then you should be able to get the lead to connect it to your FF7, The normal way of things with realflight is the lead coming out of the interface has a headphones type plug on it, this is a JR spec one and will plug straight into a JR radio. Most model shops sell a short adaptor lead which you plug the simulator lead into one end and it has the square futaba plug on the other which goes straight into the FF7.

        I beleive these adaptor leads are around £16, there are several manufacturers doing them so tracking one down shouldnt be a problem.

        Good luck with flying the hawk on Wed. as you have already found out they can be a little daunting so take it careful and have fun. One tip is when you start the model, first make sure the throttle is set to idle on the carb and take a firm grip of the rotorhead. Start the model, then whatever you do dont let go of that rotorhead until you have moved the model to the flight line.

        Ideally the pilot should stand at least 20 foot away from the model, but make sure you are in a diagonal position from it, this is just in case either the elevator or aileron linkages fail, the model then wont come back at you and obviously will go past you if it scoots off sideways.

        Good luck!

        Cheers,
        Pete.
        Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
        Rise from the ashes with
        Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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