Im brand new to IC Helis and need addvice.

[Tomo123]

Hiya ppl im new to the site and after a bit of advice.

I got a lil medevac a couple of weeks ago and its already boring me so ive bin looking arround and have 110% decided to dive into the deep end and go for IC.

Im very intrested in a raptor 30 but i dont no why? It sounds like a nice little helli for someone new to the hobby and the fact that i work in a model shop full of raptor spares.

I dont want to go above a .30 mainly because of the cost (im on a tight bugdet)

So where do i go from here?
Also im not shaw if i can get a rtf raptor or not? if not what else do i need?
1. Engine, 2. Gyro ? , 3 tranny?, 4. servos and stuff ? lol

so what do you lot reccomend?
and could you give me the prices with your reccomendations.

Also anyone no of any clubs in kent?

Thanks Tom

[Disc]

Okay

Raptor 30v2 is okay the ARTF version comes with the engine and is full
ball raced unlike the kit version.

Choice is 189 kit no engine
Engines range from 80-120 price wise Irvine,O.S (Considered the best)
and the Tunder Tiger 39H.

ARTF about 290 inc the TT39 heli engine.

Transmitter Als hobbies the Futaba 7c is about 110 pounds

Gyro the 401 with 9254 around 150 pounds

Servos you need 4 either Futaba 3001 or better

Reciever PCM is about 80 pounds


some shops offer start deals so try Skyline models:

http://www.skylinemodels.co.uk/

For Clubs in your area check out:

http://www.bmfa.org/clubs/clist.php

[Ade_Law]

i would recomend the OS37 over the others. much nicer engine. easier to tune will save you a lot of hassle.

this thread covers a fair bit of info.

http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1738

Ade

[Madray]

New

This is a good site
http://www.raptortechnique.com/

[Leebert]

I got a lil medevac a couple of weeks ago and its already boring me...

If it only took two weeks to get bored with that may I suggest a Raptor 50 with an OS 50 SX-h.
Not much more expense to start or for spares but more capable so that you won't bored too soon.
Other bits as Disc says...
Tx - Futaba 7c £100
Rx - PCM £80
Gyro has to be 401 and 9254 £150
Servos - I'd go for 3 qty 3152 £25 ea and 1 3010 £20 (throttle).

There is always goodies for sale on the BMFA classified website and here of course.

Cheers,

[Ade_Law]

at the risk of sounding like a broken record there is also the knight 50.

If your on a budget the plastic knight 50 will be out soon. much cheaper!

Ade

[Twister3D]

Heh Heh!
That makes you and the Knight then,
You really shouldnt have flown with that hand, it looked nasty.

[antsis]

I know this'll get a reaction.

One of the things that I find amusing is that whenever a novice modeller asks about radio equipment, everyone immediately suggests he goes out and spends £150 on a GY401 and S9254 combo. Now the novice has stated he is on a tight budget and must look at these prices in horror as he realises his relatively economical purchase is about to double in price.This is the trend I have noticed recently with all new members to the forum.

Yes, I agree, the 401/9254 combo is a good buy, however, there are other options available that are going to do exactly the same thing without emptying the wallet and new modellers should be made aware of them.

For example, my first ic was a hawk sport with a CSM180 gyro and a futaba 3001 servo on the rudder. For all my hovering and initial circuits it proved more than adequate.

[Ade_Law]

in my experience fitting a cheap gyro to a model will double the initial part of learning to hover. Not to mention making the model much harder to setup.

buying a 401/9254 now will save him around 65ukp in the long run as he wont have bought the 180. So the 401/9254 is the cheaper option.

dont get me started on hawks!

Ade

[antsis]

Ade. I know you have lots of experience with different setups, but surely he should be given the options with the pros and cons. Then he can decide what he wants to get.

I know you hate hawks, but they're a good general purpose model. Your preference is the knight 50, other members prefer raptors. Each to their own.

[Fixxxer]

I agree that the beginner should have a few different options to choose from but I wish somebody who knew what they were on about was with me when I bought my first gyro, 1 up from the 180 when first starting out with a middle of the road servo......never, never again. They alone had set me back a 100 quid or so and after 2 or 3 flights if thats what you would call them it was replaced with the 401/9254 an what a difference. Surely if it's one thing that needs to be on the button then the gyro/servo is that particular part.

[jimbob]

Here's my two penneth then...

There are plenty of gyros and tail servos that will allow you to learn to hover and fly circuits.
Most of the CSM ones and Futaba ones will be fine.
It all depends if you think you are going to go much further, in which case, in 6 months you will be sorry you bought a cheaper gyro cos you will want a more expensive one (probably).

If you have the cash (which you said you dont) I would recommend the 401/9254 as it does exactly what you would want it to do for as long as you would need it to while learning, and then beyond.

If you dont have the budget, then as Ant says, a CSM 180/360/540 will do you fine too, just not as well as a more expensive combo and you might want to change it in 6 months. So in 6 months, you will change it!

Hope that helps

(One thing about heli flying - it certainly isn't cheap!)

[Jamez]

Buy the best you can afford. That applies to all heli parts. If you can't afford £150 for a 401/9254, then despite what anybody else says it is not your best option (cause you can't afford it...........make's sense realy) A mid range gyro with a mid range servo will do all a beginner wants and thats stop the tail running away. Imoh it is better for the beginner to fly with a rate gyro as this will teach him how to fly the tail properly and not have a lump of electonris doing half the work for him. Then when he is at a suitable stage switch up to a Heading Hold gyro. Nice as they are they are NOT the be all and end all.

[Fixxxer]

Very true, 1 guy at out club used to fly without a gyro. I bet that is bloody hard going to say the least

[jimbob]

Its certainly harder, but not as hard as you might think.... Now my heli baby.... But thats way off topic