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    Day before last I binded my CX2 with my DX6i all was well he thought after breaking four blades and had too order more.

    Note: since having the new one I hadn't so much has had a near miss before!!!

    I know I must have mess up the settings somewhere, but it turned a perfectly good flying heli into a gutless pile of shit, battery's Electrolite & E-flite lasting only 2 minutes at best, I've now rebinded her with the original TX and have undone some of the shit caused by the DX6i, only my battery performance now it complete toilet on both brands, before she used to stay aloft forever on each batt, now it's a struggle just lifting off.

    She's utterly gutless no power like before, the throttle has no power like it used to have, and after charging battery's the performance is as above with the original TX.

    I wish I'd never attempted bind her to another Tx, as before the performance and control of the CX2 was one of power and precise control.

    Now it's complete bollocks.

    Any ideas chaps
    sigpicWayne AKA OB1

    Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

    Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
    Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
    Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
    Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

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  • #2
    how much throttle do you need to hover at the start of the battery. does it do this on more than one battery?

    it sounds like your not getting full throttle,

    hold it in your hands, push throttle to full then increase the end point at the top of the throttle. if you get an increase in power its defo not getting full throttle.

    if this is the case then increase the top and bottom end points then rebind the tx again. this will ensure you get a linear throttle action.

    Ade
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    • #3
      That's weird mate, that sounds like something's gone off somewhere, when I did mine to the DX6i she was better than ever. I've not looked back. The old controller was pants, kept trying to reverse before going forwards.

      That said I smacked her in last night trying to land and broke a bottom blade, which is a bummer cos my Skylift has eaten all my spare bottom blades

      Some on order but mom can't get to the door anymore in time for postie, so will have to wait till Sat now to collect my bits.
      Last edited by jboweruk; 19-06-2008, 01:42 PM.
      John

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      • #4
        Thanks Ade it needs a bout half throttle to lift off then its very sluggish, where I've connected it to the dx6i then rebinded it back to the stock Tx it's just turned a perfectly flyable CX2 into a complete mess.

        ****ed off doesn't even come close mate!
        sigpicWayne AKA OB1

        Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

        Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
        Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
        Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
        Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

        Joint second best sites on the Web:-
        http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
        http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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        • #5
          Thanks John, complete reverse for me, my BCX2 was fantastic, now after binding it with the 6i it's messed up everything.

          What with the car repair bill from hell this week it just keeps getting better.
          sigpicWayne AKA OB1

          Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

          Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
          Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
          Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
          Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

          Joint second best sites on the Web:-
          http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
          http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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          • #6
            OK weired and Weider, I'm running the batts thru the stock charger that came with the CX2 which took over an hour to charge and I achieved a solid 12 minutes again (one of my electrolite's were the first through the stock charger?)

            I'm cycling them through that charge unit 12V powered, strange, it took one full charge in it's default charger now that batt has been on a Prolux charger and it's taking the same time as usual to charge.

            I don't understand what's going on here, I've always charged the BCX2 batts through the other chargers and achieved superb flight times, yet now it seems once there put through the little E-flite charger there back to normal again, and charge fine with the other units.

            I've managed to trim and pot out all the bad flight profiles and shes flying sweet now, and it helped having a batt that lasted more than 120 seconds, and the throttle is now back with vengeance.

            If anyone had a logical idea why the above has happened I'd really like to know, as bugger if I do?

            As I say, all these problems arisen once binded with the DX6i?
            sigpicWayne AKA OB1

            Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

            Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
            Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
            Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
            Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

            Joint second best sites on the Web:-
            http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
            http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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            • #7
              Dodgey charger, Dodgey Power Supply, or dodgey 12v battery from the sounds of things.

              Elimnate them 1 at a time....
              -I don't crash, I just land with enthusiasm.

              A couple of 600n's with stuff on them that makes them fly..
              A 550 fbl with even more stuff on it to make it fly
              And a Mars 470 which needs stuff putting on it to make it fly

              And a DX8 too

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              • #8
                Possibly but no, after I binded the CX2 with the stock TX for a second time, even the battery's that haven't been through the E-flite charger are now working back to spec, and with powerful throttle control.

                I even had to turn the gain down a tad after the second bind?

                I now in theory it shouldn't make any difference, but after firstly binding it back to the standard TX I re-binded it back to the dx6i and reset all the trims, inc the throttle that had been set to -100%, then closed off binded it back to the CX2 TX and alls well, slight pit & gain trims and she's back to flying peachie with long duration battery performance.

                Shit if I know?
                sigpicWayne AKA OB1

                Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

                Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
                Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
                Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
                Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

                Joint second best sites on the Web:-
                http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
                http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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                • #9
                  Hi Wayne..

                  Even when these forums are quiet and not much going on you always brighten the day up with another problem developed with your helis.

                  Don't mean to sound a bitch here saying this but don't these things tend to excersize your brain every day..

                  Hope you get sorted real soon..

                  PS: Whatever did you fill your days in with before flying the helis mate, Makes me wonder too..

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                  • #10
                    Oh cheers, it's nice to know I'm a source of light entertainment, funnily enough it takes up very little of my normal day as I can't do to much at once, hence why it seems like it takes me all day.

                    These bloody things defy logic? hell if I know, I'm a bit reluctant to move the 450 over to it now, that's the problem.
                    sigpicWayne AKA OB1

                    Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

                    Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
                    Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
                    Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
                    Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

                    Joint second best sites on the Web:-
                    http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
                    http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cambs flyer View Post
                      These bloody things defy logic? hell if I know, I'm a bit reluctant to move the 450 over to it now, that's the problem.
                      Nah no problem mate.

                      My DX6i is great with the 450s. Flies on rails.

                      Cheers

                      Mark

                      PS. Sorry for the delay but those bits should be with you soon
                      sigpicx2

                      Airskipper 50 - For sale

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                      • #12
                        Thanks mate.

                        I known it's a big order but could you when time alloys give me your 450 settings you have with your DX6i then I can compare them with the DX6's and program them in, but only if you get the time.

                        I think I messed up somewhere with the BCX2 as I remember JB saying the swash change made no difference whereas on mine if I made her 120* the CX2 just flew forward????

                        Thanks for the parts mate, BTW your tail boom holding mod, I've made up the same screws and M3's and will be making the necessary mods on my XL, so the boom is more secure then what self tappers can offer.
                        sigpicWayne AKA OB1

                        Inherit the Wind - Wilton Felder 1980, Smooth Jazz-Funkin' & Flyin' in the Fens

                        Blade CX2 / Trex 250SE / Trex 450 SE V1 / Trex 500esp / Trex 600 Nitro Pro / Raptor 30 V2 / DX6i / DX7 / Phoenix / Ripmax twin Dock PSU / Cellpro 10S & 4S / Imax B6 x2.
                        Prankster Nitro / Delta Push Prop / Swift 2 Flying Wing x3 / Swift 2 (Night Flyer LED Lit) / Swift Maxi Wing / Squall 4S/ HZ Ember / Wot 4. (all 2.4ghz)
                        Plus 3 Eddie Gold Stars, yay!
                        Trex 450XL - Destroyed due to complete power failure at height.

                        Joint second best sites on the Web:-
                        http://www.vinylmorpher.co.uk/
                        http://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cambs flyer View Post
                          Possibly but no, after I binded the CX2 with the stock TX for a second time, even the battery's that haven't been through the E-flite charger are now working back to spec, and with powerful throttle control.

                          I even had to turn the gain down a tad after the second bind?

                          I now in theory it shouldn't make any difference, but after firstly binding it back to the standard TX I re-binded it back to the dx6i and reset all the trims, inc the throttle that had been set to -100%, then closed off binded it back to the CX2 TX and alls well, slight pit & gain trims and she's back to flying peachie with long duration battery performance.

                          Shit if I know?
                          Maybe the sub trim on the throttle isn't the same for everyone, sorry mate. I had to do -100% or my throttle wouldn't close. That's why I put it up as that. Can't understand why she would fly like a pig though.

                          OW, I see you read it as swash made no difference, it's pitch that makes no diff. its not attached mate. Swash has to be 90 @ 1 servo.

                          Sorry, sounds like your probs are partly my fault, not clear enough. Sorry mate.
                          Last edited by jboweruk; 19-06-2008, 07:58 PM.
                          John

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                          Too many hobbies, not enough hours in a day.

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                          • #14
                            wayne just bind it to a new model plane memory slot and tweak the reverse menu as required! no setup neccassary
                            Ron

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                            • #15
                              Ah, but then it's a plane. It only takes a few minutes to get it right as a heli. And then you have all the correct trims. If I hadn't bound my Skylift as a heli it would never have flown Ron....
                              John

                              sigpic Proud holder of an Eddie Gold Star.


                              Too many hobbies, not enough hours in a day.

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