Mode 1 or mode 2?

[demonjets]

You fly a BEELSBY thats the work of the devil

[DemonJim]

Hence the name demonjets

Mode 1 is the work of the devil!

The same reasoning applies to me, I actually fly Mode III

[johnnflk]

Once again many thanks for all your comments. A lot of things to take into consideration. I've a feeling that unless I learn mode 2 thoroughly, as soon as a panic situation occurs, I will revert to mode 1, and automatically pull the right stick back to cut the engine, with interesting results!
John

[DemonJim]

If you're left-handed like me I seriously recommend Mode III.

It's the same as Mode II in terms of there is a cyclic stick, but it is on the left side instead (where my brain wants it). The right stick is throttle and rudder. I'm amazed this isn't standard for lefties.

Also, if you choose Mode III, you can still have mode I for planes as you can swap modes in the TX (both are right-stick throttle). As long as you are Futaba it can be swapped in seconds.

A lot of people give advice to go with whatever the norm is / the club uses, but Mode III "just made sense" so I chose that -- I don't want to fly other people's helis or have them fly mine, and if they do they can use their own TX (simply rebind the RX). You wouldn't write with your right hand just because everyone else does would you?

[moyesboy]

to fly with cyclics on the left stick, and rudder collective on the right - how have you set up the eccpm? do you have to use some pmixes? or did you open the back and swap the stick units on the PCB?
...or are all the stick functions assignable on your tx?

[robgt]

(simply rebind the RX)

And set the heli up on the Tx!
Unless you managed to get the heli setup on the original Tx using all stock Tx settings... heh heh

Cheers,
Rob

[Sesame]

If you're left-handed like me I seriously recommend Mode III.

It's the same as Mode II in terms of there is a cyclic stick, but it is on the left side instead (where my brain wants it). The right stick is throttle and rudder. I'm amazed this isn't standard for lefties.

Also, if you choose Mode III, you can still have mode I for planes as you can swap modes in the TX (both are right-stick throttle). As long as you are Futaba it can be swapped in seconds.

A lot of people give advice to go with whatever the norm is / the club uses, but Mode III "just made sense" so I chose that -- I don't want to fly other people's helis or have them fly mine, and if they do they can use their own TX (simply rebind the RX). You wouldn't write with your right hand just because everyone else does would you?

Interesting point, I like many lefties have just adapted to the situation, I dont think the right hand comunity realises somtimes how awkward things can be for left handed people. Ive done mode 2 now for 18 months so Im unlikely to change now though, However ive now got something else to blame for bad flying

[DemonJim]

And set the heli up on the Tx!
Unless you managed to get the heli setup on the original Tx using all stock Tx settings... heh heh

Cheers,
Rob

LOL yes I took that as a given

I actually meant simple in terms of you probably won't even need to swap the receiver to do it, if you're both on the same type of system you could swap pilot as easy as pressing a button (FASST makes it easy as you just press the button to bind, no need for a bind cable etc.)

When you know what you're doing it's only a 5 minute job to set up a new heli on a 6EX or an FF7 even from scratch. If you already have a good default 3-S heli model memory set up (as is wise, with all your preferred expo's, D/R etc) you'd only probably have to swap a few channel / swash AFR polarities and then BAM!, you're flying someone else's hard-earned grand's-worth of heli instead

[kevinh]

Ive made the transition from mode 1 to mode 2 for helis couple of years ago, best way round it is loads of simulator time just to get used to it and then i put the baby undercarriage on my 450 and couple of short flights to get use to it and this is where the sim comes into its own it was then like second nature after that.

[Mike W]

Hmm am left handed here .. but i use a mouse with the buttons on right handed config ... and also find flying helis and planks mode 2 easier than mode 1 ... or mode 3

[Tim Procter]

Very interesting subject here.

I am ambidextrous and use different hands for different purposes.

Cricket, I Bat right handed, Ball left handed.

Shoot from the right shoulder (shotgun)

Write with my left hand

Use the PC mouse and buttons with my right hand

Play snooker left handed..

A realm of confusion with me so in respect DemonJim has a good point regarding Mode 3

Could be worth a try but at this stage its a big step to change after all the practice I have put in..

[johnnflk]

Wow, now reading all that has made me change my mind again.
I'm sticking with mode 1 for fixed wing, definately, but may stay mode 1 for helis, depending how I get on.
Seems like we have all combinations in this community!
Mode 4 anyone?
John

[Tim Procter]

John.

Some time back I decided to have a full night (3 hours) on the Phoenix sim using mode 2 just to see if I could adapt quite easily.

I could fly the heli around no problem until I got into trouble then had a brain fart and couldnt recover it everytime..

If I had stuck with it I would of course have adapted to mode 2 but gave up and stuck with mode 1 what I have always used.

Its just second nature now but as mentioned earlier in this thread getting to grips with such manouvres as "Chaos" etc will be very hard.

[Twister3D]

John.

Some time back I decided to have a full night (3 hours) on the Phoenix sim using mode 2 just to see if I could adapt quite easily.

I could fly the heli around no problem until I got into trouble then had a brain fart and couldnt recover it everytime..

This is exactly what happened to me, wanted to convert to mode 2 to progress further, managed to fly around in sim but as soon as something unusual happened, it was like muscle memory straight back to mode 1 brain and fingers without thinking. So mode 1 for me too. Have to fly F3C instead

[DemonJim]

I can imagine changing modes is actually even harder than learning to fly from scratch again - you need the reflex to be correct and it's probably better you don't know what to do yet rather than have to unlearn something too, especially in those unexpected moments where you need it to be instinct.

Interestingly Curtis Youngblood I believe using "single stick", ie I think this means he has the rudder as a twist on a big fat cyclic stick. Crazy! I read he has issues doing certain manouvres because of this but as he learnt on it there was no going back (and in fact it might help others as he has the collective all on its own).

I imagine it's probably a bit like trying to learn a new language, it's dead easy when there's nothing already there (we all do it naturally growing up) but learning a new one over the top is a lot harder. Or something