Eflite mSR RTF

[Peteski]

My point is your brain has to work a lot harder to recognise the orientation of the quad. Wheres with a helicopter it is much more obvious. Tail work is obviously incredibly important aspect of flying helicopters too. Visually keying off a tail is very important. Quads just don't have those kinds of visual landmarks so to speak.

That was actually my biggest concern about getting a quad. But in practice I found it just as easy to keep track of orientation as with my mCX2 heli. When I was watching video flying reviews it looked almost impossible to tell which way it was pointing, but in the flesh it's actually very easy with the yellow rotors at one end. I was flying it 100 feet away in the garden this afternoon and could still tell which way it was pointing.

Edit: Just to add I'm certainly no quad fanboy. I'm only interested in helis ultimately, but this has turned out to be a great training aid and a lot of fun flying in the house. The one thing the little nQX does lack is the visual presence of a heli, but other than that I really cannot fault it for fast learning.

[honwal]

Thanks for all the input.
I tried to get the x with no luck when I tried to order one I was told they have been discontinued,

I got pushed in a bit of a corner and ended up buying the msr, I think for what I want it for it will fit the bill, the strangest thing I found when un boxing was the idea of putting batteries in charger to charge a battery, or more so there was no AC lead for charger.

As for a quad I will be after one at a later date to do some photography.

p.s. the guy in one shop said they have discontinued x probably to bring out new model to take its place....might be worth looking out for.

[Peteski]

The mSR is also discontinued too. Not that it really matters as you got one anyway. Be interested to hear how you get on with it.
I was wondering if there is going to be a replacement for these soon. The obvious replacement would be a micro version of the 200 SRX with the latest SAFE technology.

I thought it was a bit odd using a battery powered battery charger, but I suppose it could be useful out in the field. I just put rechargeable batteries in mine before I got the power adaptor, which is what you really need.

[myxiplx]

I think it's odd to discontinue a model before the replacement is around. I think it could go two ways, they'll either bring out an updated model using the 'safe' technology, or they're just seeing too many quadcopter sales and will keep the nQX as the small trainer.

At the end of the day, the mSR, mSR X, nCP X, nQX are all decent first birds. They're solid, reliable, good to fly, perfect indoors, and pretty easy to repair. You won't do too far wrong with any of them :-)

[SaneAdam]

At the end of the day, the mSR, mSR X, nCP X, nQX are all decent first birds.

Birds??!!!!??? Oh no….. i thought it was only Helifreakers that call them Birds. Its a Helicopter

[Peteski]

I think it's odd to discontinue a model before the replacement is around.

Yes, i thought it was a bit odd too. Either they weren't selling too well or they want to clear stocks before releasing a replacement. Been a while though, so maybe they are just ditching that part of the market in favour of the nCPX and mCPX. Maybe there is a nCPX with "safe" tech waiting in the wings, which would be great for proper fast house flying and would effectively cover intermediate to advanced flying. I've been flying the nQX in agility mode a lot recently and while this is great for the garden, it's a bit limiting in the house in an average sized room. It's simply too quick as I would imagine the nCPX is too. That's where the "safe" mode really comes into its own, plus obviously it's great for starting out. I started out using "safe" mode all the time and now I use "safe" mode for fast indoor flight and "agility" mode for outdoors and indoor orientation practice and slow circuits. Basically I'd love to see a CP micro with "safe" mode that I could use in the same way. As I see it, the current crop of CP micros is really better suited to garden and sports hall flying, unless you are already an expert pilot. I guess the mSR and mSRX lie somewhere in the middle.

[SaneAdam]

I've been flying the nQX in agility mode a lot recently and while this is great for the garden, it's a bit limiting in the house in an average sized room. It's simply too quick as I would imagine the nCPX is too.

Its quick… but not too quick for living room flying at all. I have mine tweaked a bit livelier than stock too with agility blades. I never fly mine outdoors. Its exclusively an indoor heli. IMO, the nCPX is the king of true indoor only micros. Obviously it can be flown outside. But i have never bothered.

It will be too quick for a beginner for sure unless tamed down. But its not a handful once you get your reactions nice and sharp. Micros are by nature very twitchy beasts. It does take some skill for sure. But if you can pull off some nice flying in a tight space with a micro you are on to a winner when you move on to bigger machines.

[Peteski]

Its quick… but not too quick for living room flying at all. I have mine tweaked a bit livelier than stock too with agility blades. I never fly mine outdoors. Its exclusively an indoor heli. IMO, the nCPX is the king of true indoor only micros. Obviously it can be flown outside. But i have never bothered.

It will be too quick for a beginner for sure unless tamed down. But its not a handful once you get your reactions nice and sharp. Micros are by nature very twitchy beasts. It does take some skill for sure. But if you can pull off some nice flying in a tight space with a micro you are on to a winner when you move on to bigger machines.

We're beginners, the clue is in the forum section title. A link to some of your living room flying with the nCPX might give us a better idea of what you can do with yours in the house. I've seen videos of experts flying them fully 3D in kitchens, but all the ones I've seen of beginners attempting to fly them have been pretty **** poor to be honest. That's what put me off getting one (for now).

[SaneAdam]

Lol… well I'm not a beginner thats for sure, I was trying to offer the op some helpful advise based on my experience and based on his question as to which micro helicopter is best for indoor orientation practice. When i get chance, i will have someone film me if you want. But i certainly don't have to prove myself to you or anyone else here that i can fly well lol Im not full of shit… lol

[Peteski]

Well the mSR is clearly a good choice for an intermediate indoor heli, nobody is going to argue about that. All I'm saying to the OP, in response to your dismissal of it, is don't rule out the nQX as an alternative. It's been brilliant for me as a total beginner training towards flying CP helis.

As for your flying skills with the nCPX I genuinely wanted to know what a reasonable pilot (not some 3D God - or maybe you are?) could realistically achieve with one in the house to see if I should get one anytime soon. It's nothing to do with your proving yourself, I just want to see how it actually flies in a small space compared to the nQX. I've watched countless videos and they seem polarised into two distinct categories - awesome flying skills and totally crap!

[honwal]

The mSR is also discontinued too. Not that it really matters as you got one anyway. Be interested to hear how you get on with it.
I was wondering if there is going to be a replacement for these soon. The obvious replacement would be a micro version of the 200 SRX with the latest SAFE technology.

I thought it was a bit odd using a battery powered battery charger, but I suppose it could be useful out in the field. I just put rechargeable batteries in mine before I got the power adaptor, which is what you really need.

Just had a go with msr in beginners mode, I managed to fly into hand and catch heli few times which I am quite pleased with.

I feel if you had plenty of space you would get the hang of msr in beginners mode no probs.

[honwal]

I think it's odd to discontinue a model before the replacement is around. I think it could go two ways, they'll either bring out an updated model using the 'safe' technology, or they're just seeing too many quadcopter sales and will keep the nQX as the small trainer.

At the end of the day, the mSR, mSR X, nCP X, nQX are all decent first birds. They're solid, reliable, good to fly, perfect indoors, and pretty easy to repair. You won't do too far wrong with any of them :-)

Hopefully this heli will give me the orientation skills I am after to fly the 200srx.

[honwal]

Its quick… but not too quick for living room flying at all. I have mine tweaked a bit livelier than stock too with agility blades. I never fly mine outdoors. Its exclusively an indoor heli. IMO, the nCPX is the king of true indoor only micros. Obviously it can be flown outside. But i have never bothered.

It will be too quick for a beginner for sure unless tamed down. But its not a handful once you get your reactions nice and sharp. Micros are by nature very twitchy beasts. It does take some skill for sure. But if you can pull off some nice flying in a tight space with a micro you are on to a winner when you move on to bigger machines.

Must say I was very tempted to get the cpx it looks such a fun micro, then I thought I better walk before I can run.

no doubt I will add an indoor cp at some point.

[5hane]

I am after a indoor heli to try and hone my orientation, what are your thoughts on the blade msr,
thanks

loved my first heli, the MSR. Now have the MSRX (still half price in Kings Lynn model shop). It's very challenging, but surely the more challenging the better so that you are prepared for bigger and better

[SaneAdam]

Must say I was very tempted to get the cpx it looks such a fun micro, then I thought I better walk before I can run.

no doubt I will add an indoor cp at some point.

Yes, the mSR is ideal for beginners imo. Couple with a good tx it is even better. The stock tx is pretty limiting. I very quickly bought a DX6i a few days after i bought the mSR to replace it and was amazed by how much difference it made in terms of precision of inputs and programmable options. You can progress onto the Nano as you say But you have a good tool for practising orientations for sure.