After a s107g will it be a Msr or Msrx??

[Karlo]

Well tried the Msrx a few times and getting it in the air but it is so different than the s107g!!!
this is what I have observed coming from a s107g and that I need to get used to :-
1) no spring load in throttle. (Left stick)
2) definitely shoots to the left
3) IMHO it is a lot harder!!!
4) speed and response is very quick!

these are my personal opinions and I am still trying to control the left drift!!!

i must be a total newbie!!!

[tomatwalden]

LOL! Welcome to the world of proper helis!

1/. Why would you even want that!!? Spring load to where? low stick, mid-stick? The left (collective/throttle) should never be spring loaded in the vertical axis (it should be in the horizontal though)
2/. Yup - all helis do that! Even full size, real helicopters (actually, they drift to the right generally, but the principle is the same)
3/. The S107g is a toy - designed to be VERY easy to fly. This heli is an intro into proper RC helis. Persevere though, it's not easy, but also not as impossible as it may seem at first!
4/. Again, yup. This heli has "neutral stability" you'll need to learn to correct it constantly. Keep the tail pointing towards you for the moment, otherwise you'll make life a lot harder for yourself.

Take a look at the flight school vids linked below. He uses a 450, but the principles are the same! Good luck!

How To Fly RC Helicopters

[Euclid]

LOL

Point 1) Normal
Point 2) Normal
Point 3) Normal (compared to the 107)
Point 4) Normal (compared to the 107)

I think I'm safe in saying we've all been there (and on most days I still am).

Have fun and things will be a lot easier once you have a 'proper' transmitter.

[Karlo]

Thanks all for the encouragements

gonna try try and try again.lol

[Shep0479]

Thanks all for the encouragements

gonna try try and try again.lol

I tried a year ago and got frustrated and annoyed and moved to planes. Just this past month I've got back on the sim for heli's and put a lot of hours in and I'm flying my 450 now for real doing hovering, circles (bit lazy) , stall turns, inverted for small moments. And I now have a 500x on the way just keep practising.

[james_2k]

LOL! Welcome to the world of proper helis!

1/. Why would you even want that!!? Spring load to where? low stick, mid-stick? The left (collective/throttle) should never be spring loaded in the vertical axis (it should be in the horizontal though)

3/. The S107g is a toy - designed to be VERY easy to fly. This heli is an intro into proper RC helis. Persevere though, it's not easy, but also not as impossible as it may seem at first!

How To Fly RC Helicopters

1)Some of the 107s have spring loaded throttles, mine didn't. People have been removing the springs to fix that.

2) They are all toys

to the op:
The s107 won't work outside. The uv light will mess up the ir signal.


i went from a 107 to a nano cpx and dominator 450. It was a step up, but the 107 was a great help, very good value too

[Grumpy]

IMHO co-axials like the S107 are a fun toy to play with but really do nothing at all to help develop the skills that you need to fly a 'real' RC heli.
The fact that they dont have cyclic roll control makes them totally different to fly compared to any single rotor heli, plus of course that they are so stable, docile and generally unresponsive that a blind old granny could fly one. In fact I think they probably teach you more bad habits than anything else and are best avoided if your ambition is to move up to proper helis.

Others no doubt have a different view.

[james_2k]

Well, I had a 107 then moved to proper helis. No simulator. So I beg to differ.

[Grumpy]

Well, I had a 107 then moved to proper helis. No simulator. So I beg to differ.

Thats' fine we all have different views.

However to my eye your experience doent really prove that the 107 helped you. Many flyers go straight to a single rotor heli without ever flying a co-axial and they also do fine (myself as one such example, I learned on trex 450). My previous experience was fixed wing so on that basis i could argue that flying fixed wing before a heli was the way to go?
Personally I find that co-axial flying is just so totally different that the skills dont transfer very well at all, specifically you cant (and dont have to) use roll on a co-axial, plus co-axials are very strongly self-leveling. Roll is a fundamental control that you have to master on any single rotor, as is keeping the heli level. This probably explains why the OP is having such a hard time controlling sideways drift now he's moved to a single rotor.

The best learning 'tool' I found was a small quad (discovered after I'd learned the basics) they fly much the same as a single rotor heli but have more self leveling stability (which you can turn off) making them easier to learn on.

[james_2k]

Yes I would say that the fixed pitch experience helped you a lot. Using the controller and orientations are all similar.

hell even call of duty (etc) experience on a console with two analogue sticks will help. As you say we all have different ways into the hobby, none are more valid than others.

[Mike Sanders]

I learned to fly a co-axial (E Sky Kob) and I flew it around my garden for nearly a year on calm days. As a result I thought I could fly a model helicopter. So I bought and built my 450. I got a nasty shock when I first flew that!

I think the co-axial did help me to learn but I should have obtained a collective pitch heli (or a sim) earlier than I did.

Just my personal experience for what it's worth.

[Euclid]

I think we owe a debt of gratitude to these co-axiel toys, just how many appitites have been whetted because of them? I very much doubt if I'd have asked Santa for my mSRx if I hadn't have played and very quickly got bored with my S107. And of course the SR soon moves to a CP and the micro then soon becomes a 250 which then becomes a 450 which then becomes a...

[Karlo]

Lol, yeah. I believe the 'toy' helicopters are a very good plot from the RC helicopter trade to generate new / old flames into the RC helicopters. I mean I give up after I could not hover a long time ago but came back after my kids got me the s107g.

i now have a Msrx and a dx6i within a few weeks..lol.