Beast X. WOW.!!!

[Tim Procter]

have you flown a vbar tim?

reason i ask is i'm trying to gauge where this is compared to what i have used before. to help with my thought process i'll sum up the flybarless systems i have tried-

vbar=sucked ass

align 3g=sucked bigger ass

cheers

No Paul sorry I haven't.

My first entry into the FBL world was the Align 3G offering and to be honest you saw me have success with that in Scotland.

Yes I like it and still do but this is totally different in every way.

If you get chance to fly one that is setup correctly then do it.

Would appreciate your input as I seem to getting over excited about it.

[GravityKills]

the guy from whom I bought the BeastX replaced it on a 250 with a mini V-Bar and was very happy.

My gut feeling is that the V-Bar will still outperform the BeastX. Especially the rudder gyro is excellent.

The main problems with V-Bar are
- wrong geometry. It is essential to calculate cyclic gain, and change the mechanics if it's not close to 100
- underpowered servos. That's why it's completely painless in my 550 and 600, but not in the 700. The swash servos would need more muscle
- vibrations. The V-Bar does not like .90 engines, and it may require some extensive modifications, like moving the gyro mount to a more "quiet" part of the heli. This will probably be a thing of the past, once the blue sensors are available.

[ddracer]

Dam it I have just ordered another one and the programming lead to boot. It's Julies fault if I wasn't sitting here in my own personal hell (Butlins) bored I never would have done it.


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[rapidgaz]

Right guy's, I have just got back in from another 5 flights tonight and believe me I am wearing a grin from ear to ear.

Since Monday's maiden flights I got the system back on the bench and reduced the pitch to around 14 degrees (yes still way too much but it pulls it)

and sorted the tail by moving the ball link in a hole on the servo arm and re-setting the end points.

Had a play with the gain when I got up the field and can confirm this is the absolute best bit of kit I have ever bought since I started this hobby..

Richard Hibbert (yes he is back again} witnessed every flight I did tonight along with Carl Robinson and it left both of them totally gobsmacked.

Chris Barrow.

I'll go as far as saying if you are not impressed with the Beast I will buy it from you for my second heli.

That's a statement made online in front of witnesses.

That is how much I like them. Yes I'm sold.

so when do you get me a beer glad you are enjoying the beast tim should finis putting mine on a good heli tonight or tomoz

[spurdy]

Glad you like tim , Loving mine more each time i fly it , whats your measurement on tail servo arm Btw ? and how was your tail behaving ?

[simm0]

rapidgaz
stefans is almost here,so we will be seeing what its like on a short while..
dont get leaving the country anytime soon

cheers craig

[Tim Procter]

Glad you like tim , Loving mine more each time i fly it , whats your measurement on tail servo arm Btw ? and how was your tail behaving ?

Servo horn is the futaba one with the four arms on it, I have the ball link on the third hole out.

Tail was very near perfect tonight although it was very windy.

For some reason it was solid when in the hover the right way up but when inverted it just had a minor wag (nothing at all really) but worth mentioning as you asked.

As quoted earlier it holds solid in flight and the piro rate is very consistent both ways.

Stops are perfect for me now.

[tonystevens]

so when do you get me a beer glad you are enjoying the beast tim should finis putting mine on a good heli tonight or tomoz

Which ones it going on then Gaz?

[rapidgaz]

Which ones it going on then Gaz?

would like to put on the 7, but the 6 its going to be.

[rapidgaz]

rapidgaz
stefans is almost here,so we will be seeing what its like on a short while..
dont get leaving the country anytime soon

cheers craig

wish i was sick of the rain, so no prob will be around

[ChrisB]

Tim

So how would you compare the 3g to this now you have done a few flights on it.The 3g has done you proud and you obviously liked it as your first fbl system but i am interested in how you find the Beast differs.

Is it just a overall better feel or are there areas you can single out where an advantage can be found for instance.

[Tim Procter]

Tim

So how would you compare the 3g to this now you have done a few flights on it.The 3g has done you proud and you obviously liked it as your first fbl system but i am interested in how you find the Beast differs.

Is it just a overall better feel or are there areas you can single out where an advantage can be found for instance.

Right, where do we start.

When doing tail down tic tocs with the Align 3G from pitching back the heli to pitching negative to take it away... the heli "Snatched" and looked quite bad.

The Beast is ultra smooth in the transition from full positive to full negative and does the transition with simply "NO" interaction. DEAD STRAIGHT.!!

When performing aileron tictocs I can hold the manouvre at head height with no gain or loss in height when performing this set.

When in fast forward flight a simple barrel roll is very tight with no corkscrewing like I usually mess it up.

The main improvement is the lack of "Snatching" which the 3G did and the ultra smoothness of the Beast.

I really can't wait for some of you guy's to report back once you have them.

I am gobsmacked with it, Maybe I am over reacting but this is the start of a new era for me.

Super smooth 3D.

[ChrisB]

Cheers Tim


Will report back once i have tried it.

[Sieze2]

Ok I finally got mine set-up and did 6 flights with it today fitted to my 12S 600e. Only problem I had, is in the menu "K" you have to set the Max pitch for BOTH positive and negative. I did my first flight with 13 degree's +ve and 6 degrees -ve. Was easily fixed when I re-read that page of the manual! and I set it to 13, 13.

Anyway .......... Tim is absolutely right about the beastx

It is better that the 3G IMHO. It seems less "snatchy" in flight particularly tic-tocs. It seems to hold position and maintain accuracy better than the 3g (particularly with tic-tocs). It makes the heli feel larger than it is, and much more accurate than the 3G. I am concious I am repeating Tim's comments, but something I found it excels in is stability in prio's. My 3g on my 700 (with perfect Cog) gets out of shape within 2 seconds of priroing (with no input). The beastx will prio inverted for ages (maybe 4 seconds) before it gets wobbly! I also found I could do repeated inverted loops with little to no correction - despite a 10mph wind. The feel of confidence it gives you is awesome ! It feels totally locked in, and responsive.

The setup is far more involved and time consuming than the 3G....and no Tim it does not take 10 mins ! Once installed and setup it flies really nice on default settings. I only bothered with the extreme setting though ! In my opinion I find the tail stops have a bit too much deceleration (can be improved by adjusting pot), and the default roll, yaw, and pitch rate is a bit slow but easily fixed by increasing servo endpoints. The unit itself looks built to last, the only other grip is it takes longer to initialise than a 3g. But the extra two seconds are totally worth it!

I am really pleased with mine, and will be putting the 3g on the 700 up for sale when the beastx comes back in stock. I don't think I can live with 3g, now I have tasted something better. That's not to say I don't like the 3G, its just I like the Beastx more

Craig, Steffan is welcome to try mine, only problem is I am away this weekend, and he will probably have his by the next!

[raptorheli2]

No Paul sorry I haven't.

My first entry into the FBL world was the Align 3G offering and to be honest you saw me have success with that in Scotland.

Yes I like it and still do but this is totally different in every way.

If you get chance to fly one that is setup correctly then do it.

Would appreciate your input as I seem to getting over excited about it.

unfortunately tim it won't be me that offers any info on how this flies as i'm not buying any more flybless systems. i await the door going and the spartan unit delivered (probably next year). i've been very disappointed in what the vbar and align 3g offered so i'm not paying a few hundred quid again for one so i await.............

looking forward to more reviews though as time goes on.

p.s you won 3ds-not your fbl mate.

cheers