3G and poor cyclic/elevator response

[paulsouthport]

Well, took it back to 2.1, used Coolices recommended settings, doubled up the pads and strapped the sensor down, but the weather and work have totally blocked all flying.
I did take it in the back yard today, between rain showers, and it does seem a whole load better. No weird pitching going on, solid despite the strong gusts in a confined space, so hopefully, weather permitting, I'll get a good flight in the near future!

Cheers again, chaps, excellent stuff!

[coolice]

Hello Mate.

Ah this is good to hear that you're having better luck since downgrading. Its a shame, but as i put in my earlier post V3 made some things better and other areas worse :-(
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[paulsouthport]

Cheers mate. Wish I'd known that from the off, it was on 2.1 when I got it and the 1st thing I did was upgrade to 3. Oh well, c'est la vie!

Thanks again, have a great Xmas and New year!

[coolice]

My original 3G which was in my 700N then 700E, stayed on V1 for a long time before I decided I needed another challenge and tried V2.1. Glad i did as V2.1 is good, but glad i only tried V3 on my 550 and 450.

Merry Christmas to you to my friend and a Happy New Year.

Keep us posted as you put more flights on the model.
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[Rotorhead]

Forgot to mention the gyro unit needs to be as near as poss to main shaft, you may find it will fit on the bottom frame tray

That is a myth that's been going round since regular gyros, rotation is rotation, each gyro will experience the same number of degrees it has turned through at the same rate at any point on the helicopter, even if it was on a 10ft poll sticking out the nose.

The only way it would experience anything different is if the heli contorted itself, which doesn't generally happen unless gravity has won that day.

The important thing is making sure its level, and the cyclic axies are aligned with roll and pitch, and that there as little vibration as possible.

[iceuk]

Best thing to do with a 3G unit is throw it in the bin, I have one and it's awful, I am actually tempted to take it off and fly it with no electronic stabalisastion as it will probably fly better.

[Red3]

Best thing to do with a 3G unit is throw it in the bin, I have one and it's awful, I am actually tempted to take it off and fly it with no electronic stabalisastion as it will probably fly better.

Sorry but I can't agree with you I have a 3g on my 550 that flys well on coolice settings.

[coolice]

Best thing to do with a 3G unit is throw it in the bin, I have one and it's awful, I am actually tempted to take it off and fly it with no electronic stabalisastion as it will probably fly better.

Hey buddy.

If you don't know how to extract the best performance out of the 3G then yes you will struggle, it's not as plug and play as say a beastx in that respect, but if you understand what each parameter does and spend the time its more than capable.


As an example all Duncan Osbournes recent results have been while using a 3G, admittedly combined with CSM tail gyro in his case, but it proves good results can be achieved with the necassary experience to get the setup right.
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[iceuk]

It flew ok with 2.1 upgraded to 3.0 and it was rubbish, I did have a fiddle with the settings but I could never get it to fly how I wanted it to, since the I brought a Logo 500 with Vbar and it just works out of the box, set it up once and that's it (-;

I can't be bothered with the 3G now,

[coolice]

It flew ok with 2.1 upgraded to 3.0 and it was rubbish, I did have a fiddle with the settings but I could never get it to fly how I wanted it to, since the I brought a Logo 500 with Vbar and it just works out of the box, set it up once and that's it (-;

I can't be bothered with the 3G now,

Hey.

Totally agree with you, V3 is horrible and I say this in all the forums I'm actively talking about the 3G/GX in. The latter also went the same way with V1.2 unfortunately, with firmware it seems they take two steps forward and one step back.

I'm a recent Vbar convert and they do work very well, can be more involving to setup but so much is known about them that finding a setup that suits you is easy. However it cannot be compared to the 3G/GX as its nearly double the price and so expected to be much better as a result.
Also the unit is older than the Align offering and has evolved in its life time to where it is now.
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[paulsouthport]

Well, there was finally a break in the weather and a day off - so off to the field.
Bang on! Straight off the bat flying 100% better - predictable, controllable, sweet! It's like flying a big powerful MCPX now but with a better tail and lot more power. Basically all of the balisticness I used to have with the pin sharp control of FBL. Superb! Really enjoyed it - thanks so much Coolice! I was on the verge going back to a sticky out thing but I'll stick with the FBL now, 600 next.....

[paulsouthport]

Oh, and the cyclic response is great - really fast and sharp. Feels like a ballerina on crack now!

[coolice]

Well, there was finally a break in the weather and a day off - so off to the field.
Bang on! Straight off the bat flying 100% better - predictable, controllable, sweet! It's like flying a big powerful MCPX now but with a better tail and lot more power. Basically all of the balisticness I used to have with the pin sharp control of FBL. Superb! Really enjoyed it - thanks so much Coolice! I was on the verge going back to a sticky out thing but I'll stick with the FBL now, 600 next.....

Hey.

You're welcome buddy, glad you can enjoy the model now.
A nicely flying fbl machine does feel great in the air, stable and predictable, yet agile and quick when required. I'm reminded just how good fbl is now when I fly a flybarred model.

Keep us posted as you get mor time on the model.
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[IanC]

Seeming as coolice is the resident expert on 3G setup, after reading many posts about them....

What settings would you suggest for the trex 500, could I use the 450pro file attached to this thread?

Thanks alot
Ian

[jasoncook]

Hi Ian I used the coolice settings on a 550 and a 700. The v3 update also flies very well, I could not tell a lot of diffrence, Fewest tail kicks out of all the updates i tried Cheers Jason