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  • BeastX vs. Vbar

    I'm sure this topic has been debated many times before, both on RCheliaddicts and other forums.


    But, seeing as I'm thinking of getting a 'serious' FBL heli (only have the MCPx at the moment) I want some new opinions.


    I have heard many people say that the Vbar is the best FBL system out there. However it is quite pricey. But I have seen and heard good things about the BeastX.


    In terms of value for money how do they compare? Performance is also a factor as I'm pushing my 3D harder now and I'm not liking the constant corrections needed with a flybar on my 600 when transitioning between tricks.


    I know the 3GX is cheaper again but I have heard bad things about the 3GX.


    Is the Vbar worth the price tag or with a little patients and the right set up can BeastX match it?


    Ollie.

  • #2
    Vbar is the best, lots of parameters to play with, but BeastX v3 is plenty good enough for any 3d pilot and very popular

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    • #3
      If you want value for money, go for the beast x but if you want to maximize the potential of your heli get the vbar. You dont have to buy a brand new vbar as I agree it is costly but if you are patient enough, you could save by buying second hand and always go for the pro version. My mini v is the only one I bought brand new, all of my full size vbar are bought second hand from the for sale section of this forum.
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      • #4
        Thanks for the reply guys.

        I'm not in a huge rush to get on FBL as of yet. So I may keep my ears to the ground for a mini V.

        Ollie.

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        • #5
          Vbar is hands down most stable needs less correction piro moves do not drift,massively adjustable to how you like the Heli to feel...

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          • #6
            Ollie, take a go with my 600 at the weekend. BeastX I am sure someone with a V Bar would do the same. Try before you buy, can't get better
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            • #7
              Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
              Ollie, take a go with my 600 at the weekend. BeastX I am sure someone with a V Bar would do the same. Try before you buy, can't get better
              Mmmm I'm not sure that will help as the set up of the flybar less unit is a pure personal experience.

              I started with a beastX then bought a vbar to see what the fuss was about.

              I now have vbars on everything except the original 500 with the beast x.

              Last weekend for a laugh I put my spare full size vbar ( bought second hand from this forum) onto my old 450 sev2. This has finally convinced me to bin the beast x on the 500 and upgrade.

              I don't know how to explain this. But it is just so much more precise. It just does as its told.

              Sadly I tell it to crash !!!

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              • #8
                You are right of course and I would explain that to Ollie should he take me up on the offer. He flys a flybarred 600, although electric so there would be a reasonable comparison for him. Far rather get a general feel for either one than go for say the BeastX without trying the V bar and not realising what you're missing (apparently) or go for the V bar and not get the chance to realise that you could have had what you wanted for 130 quid less.

                I've said many times you can't get the best out of a unit without being able to fly as you don't know what you like nor able to adjust the flight performance feel of it.
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                • #9
                  I would personally go for the Beast X unit. As mentioned above, they are very good untis. I use them on both my helis. Only until quite recently I just set mine up, got it flying pretty well and left it at that. When I started making some minor changes, it improved the way the helicopter felt, but that's only after many hours flying. I now know what adjustments do what to the helicopter and I feel I could make more benefit from something like a V Bar if it is as good as people say.

                  For your first excursion in the FBL, do yourself a favour and make it as easy for you as possible. Go Beast X. They can be setup and adjusted without a computer, which is incredibly handy, especially at the field when you might want to make a change here or there. Whilst I have no doubt the V Bar is very good, the setup and adjustment of each parameter might be daunting the the new FBL pilot and you won't get the most out of it (IMO of course).
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                  • #10
                    Just keeping slightly on topic here, there are so many different V-Bar types which one is considered the better unit?

                    This one?

                    Mini V-Bar Blueline v5.3 Express | Midland Helicopters Ltd

                    Or this one which is slightly more?

                    Mikado VBar 'Silverline' 5.3 Express | Midland Helicopters Ltd

                    I have no idea what the difference is between the two....
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                    • #11
                      Afaik dani it's just the sensor that's diff. I found vbars a minefield at first then realised it's really quite simple once you know lol
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                      • #12
                        My mate used to run a few Beast units,he now has about 10 vbars.

                        I have only flown vbar but im well happy with my 4 vbarred machines.
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                        • #13
                          Vbar is by far the best out there that I have tried. You can use others and many top pilots use BeastX but it will take more tweaking to get it where you want it. Vbar for me is the ultimate plug and play FBL system. Stick it on, basic setup and it will fly awesome. You can then tweak it to get it perfect. Any FBL system will work but none that I have used come close to the ease of setup and performance of the Vbar.

                          While I sound like a Vbar fanboy I will use anything that gets the most out of my heli's and at the moment, that is still vbar!
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                          • #14
                            Not much in it flight wise, I prefer the visual interface of vbar for setup though. The vibration analyser is a great feature also.
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                            • #15
                              I was looking at VBar and didn't think they were too expensive but then saw the tail gyro and the combo price was £260-ish and that floored me a bit (crushed is probably the word I'm groping for).

                              Does the VBar not have internal tail gyro? Is it a separate unit that needs plugging into VBAR? I would love to know.

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