JR and Spektrum

[Arwel]

So whats going on with Spektrum and JR now then? I hear they are going their seperate ways. I have just bought a JR12X and have Spektrum RXs in my models.

Is there a possibility that I may have to buy new JR RXs for my models in the future? If there is a chance that JR will upgrade the software on my 12X and if so, will it be a JR RX only compatible system from then on??

Thanks Arwel.

[raptorheli2]

you will need to stick with spektrum rx's long term and JR will still be offering DSM2 rx's for the forseeable.

i don't think you can firmware update to the new system from what i have read.

cheers

[pchristy]

Statement issued by JR:

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To Our Valued JR Customers:

During the recent BMFA Nationals, a new JR 7 channel radio system using DMSS was shown by our UK distributor. This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR. Unfortunately, several individuals made statements that JR finds very misleading and require correction.

JR remains committed to future development with DSM technologies and to our customers who currently own JR equipment using the DSM standard. JR will continue to manufacture, sell, and support DSM equipment in all markets currently allowed by agreement.

It is our goal that this communication clears up any questions about JR’s intentions and that JR remains confident in and committed to the future of DSM technology around the world.

We thank you for your continued support.

Kind regards

Mooney Takamura.
International Sales Manager
JR Propo

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I think that pretty much answers the question!

[Gaza07]

I wonder if this statement will be ripped apart on here as much as it did over on rcmf
It puts me of that forum all the backbiting and snivling, The lengths that some of the people over there goto to get there point or opinion over

[coolice]

Phew, that's a sigh of relief :-)
As a DSX12 flier I was a little perplexed and upset to hear that JR were possibly moving away from Spektrum, reading the above it sounds like they are just embracing their own system alongside the Spektrum.
It would seem a bit odd for JR to have dropped Spektrum altogether seem as their new 11X Zero is Spektrumed.
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[Mark_T]

It would seem a bit odd for JR to have dropped Spektrum altogether seem as their new 11X Zero is Spektrumed.
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The 11X Zero as shipped right now is modular so the use of a Spektrum module was an easy option.

I'm happy to take JR at their word, but it will be interesting to see if they ever release another new, non-modular, spektrum based radio ...

[Disc]

I don't see an issue and I recon its a good move by JR

Any module set they do will be fine because that will allow an upgrade and you can bet it will happen.

Anyone who crys about them droppping the current system can still fly and use spektrum stuff and knowing JR they offer good long term back up on their stuff.

If I was to look at new tranny I'd be choosing a JR set over Spektrum with the new system because I have little to no faith with the current DSM system they use.

After all the helicopter programing in a DX7 is JR and well the DX8 was Spektrum and that went oh so well

So JR doing a 7channel set why not it'll match a DX7 for sure and I suspect it'll be better in a few respects.

[Mark_T]

I don't see an issue and I recon its a good move by JR

I wouldn't disagree at all, but when they release a 7 channel unit going head-to-head with the DX7 in the UK/USA, both markets where DSM2 is available, then claim :

"This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR."

It rather lacks the ring of sincerity

If one reads their words as meaning DSM2 is unavailable to them because their contract with Spektrum precludes them from releasing a TX with 7 or less channels using DSM2 then it might sound more believable ...

[Disc]

I wouldn't disagree at all, but when they release a 7 channel unit going head-to-head with the DX7 in the UK/USA, both markets where DSM2 is available, then claim :

"This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR."

It rather lacks the ring of sincerity

If one reads their words as meaning DSM2 is unavailable to them because their contract with Spektrum precludes them from releasing a TX with 7 or less channels using DSM2 then it might sound more believable ...

The market there after is people like me who wouldn't touch Spektrum DSM with a bloody barge pole and I can tell you there's a lot out there who will take up the new trannys and 2.4ghz system by JR

I do also think the fact they cannot do a 7 channel set uder the current 2.4ghz system is playing a major part in it.

[Janek]

Statement issued by JR:

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To Our Valued JR Customers:

During the recent BMFA Nationals, a new JR 7 channel radio system using DMSS was shown by our UK distributor. This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR. Unfortunately, several individuals made statements that JR finds very misleading and require correction.

JR remains committed to future development with DSM technologies and to our customers who currently own JR equipment using the DSM standard. JR will continue to manufacture, sell, and support DSM equipment in all markets currently allowed by agreement.

It is our goal that this communication clears up any questions about JR’s intentions and that JR remains confident in and committed to the future of DSM technology around the world.

We thank you for your continued support.

Kind regards

Mooney Takamura.
International Sales Manager
JR Propo

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I think that pretty much answers the question!

Does it really ?

I heard a rumour that DSM2 (aka Spectrum) will only be supported for about 2 years.........

I'll not be holding my breath that JR will honour the above unclear statement (or their customers).........they'll do whatever is best for their business

[dumb thumb it]

hi

i was speaking to jr about this the other day when sending my 12x off for servicing and i will be supported for a lot longer than 2 years , thay are still supporting 35 meg now and still selling it too, better still iam not going to have to use only jr rxs @ £107 for 7chanel and £129 for 9chanel. when this system is releast you will get hammered on rx prices by jr o well.

[moyesboy]

There are markets where local manufactured got involved in the certification to defend their own position and make sure DSM was not allowed. Hence spektrum actually market a channel hopping non DSM system in at least one country.
Folks spread rumours that when they did that, it meant they (Spektrum) had recognised the futaba technology was superior and were going to drop DSM technology in future.

People just like to make up rumours to make folks panic they have just bought a system that might be out of fashion, be banned, or end up with no support.

[scallybert]

There are markets where local manufactured got involved in the certification to defend their own position and make sure DSM was not allowed. Hence spektrum actually market a channel hopping non DSM system in at least one country.

The Spektrum kit in Japan is reportedly DSM-J, and frequency hops. (Apparently frequency hopping allows use of greater power under Japan regulations.)

The posts I found suggested it was FHSS rather than DSSS. However, I'm not sure this is the case. Previous discussion suggested that FASST wasn't FHSS, but was actually 'agile DSSS'. I suspect the same would be true of DSM-J.

It would be interesting to know.