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  • FASST Speck (Episode 5)

    A New FASST Speck Episode 5,
    I knew they would do one these as a response to DSM-X, not very inventive.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nULRUPF_o]YouTube - FASST? and Speck: Not Adequate (Episode 5)[/ame]

    Note this these are by Hobbico not Futuba themselves & I think are meant to be tongue in cheak - friendly competition.

    Tim.

  • #2
    Poor as always. They may charge you for this upgrade (if you even want to upgrade it), but at least they do not charge you an arm and a leg for everything else (if at all), including the up front product cost.

    Perhaps Spektrum should make an advert of the differences in customer service between them and Futaba, now that would be a right laugh as we can share with our experiences, but Spektrum would not go that low.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LaurenceGough View Post
      Poor as always. They may charge you for this upgrade (if you even want to upgrade it), but at least they do not charge you an arm and a leg for everything else (if at all), including the up front product cost.

      Perhaps Spektrum should make an advert of the differences in customer service between them and Futaba, now that would be a right laugh as we can share with our experiences, but Spektrum would not go that low.
      at least futaba works

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dav20043 View Post
        at least futaba works
        And so does Spektrum, not one issue here. Futaba have had issues in the past, and as do Spektrum now with some of the buggy DX8s. As for this recent find it's only at big events with about 500+ people AFAIK, and apparently from people turning on their transmitters at ground level without letting the transmitter have a clear view of the channels currently in use. As not to forget the transmitter should not complete the lock-on unless there are enough clear channels. So actually standing up and turning the transmitter on should have avoided these crashes.

        Luckily with my DX7 I have skipped all these.

        Personally I do not see skipping through channels as a solution, I am in favour of transmitter control that way the band is not over-crowded from all the people leaving their transmitters on.
        Last edited by LaurenceGough; 16-02-2011, 11:16 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LaurenceGough View Post
          And so does Spektrum, not one issue here. Futaba have had issues in the past, and as do Spektrum now with some of the buggy DX8s.

          Luckily with my DX7 I have skipped all these.
          Maybe at a logo flyin but when you have more than three people is when i think the issues occur

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dav20043 View Post
            Maybe at a logo flyin but when you have more than three people is when i think the issues occur
            Have you not been aware of the 1000's of flyins where Spektrum transmitters have been used without issues?


            We are talking about the worlds largest rc heli gatherings, the 2.4GHz band is going to struggle full stop with that many people on it. I guess the freq hopping system is just lucky so far.

            I don't see myself in a funfly with more than 500 people or so in a long time . I'm keeping mine as it is.
            Last edited by LaurenceGough; 16-02-2011, 11:14 PM.

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            • #7
              just think Spektrum are basically admitting large number of flyers theres an issue on DSM2 now if you owned a 5k model and it crashed on DSM2 at such an event wouldn't you be ****ed off ?
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              • #8
                Here's the thing, them being good about repairs is not something to shout about as if it makes up for inherant problems with the system.

                It has got to be better to work right in the first place and not need to be sending stuff off to get fixed, er I mean "upgraded" every five minutes.

                Using the customer service arguement is just a poor way to defend a brand with a bad track record (how many recalls now?) and when you think about it, what is that really saying?

                With Spektrum I have to wonder what is the next "upgrade" they'll come out with?

                It may work perfectly in a club setting, but clearly there is a problem when you have more than a hand full of tx's on at once. I wouldn't like the feeling of being a beta tester for a radio system that appears to need patching every few years.
                Last edited by Rotorhead; 17-02-2011, 03:33 AM.
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                • #9
                  It may work perfectly in a club setting, but clearly there is a problem when you have more than a hand full of tx's on at once.

                  So are you saying spectrum is a club radio not for the big meets?
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                  • #10
                    Now these types of things really gets my goat!!.. makes me want to stay as far away from Futaba as possible!!

                    Don't care whether they are by Futaba or not, they are clearly bashing the opposition to try and bring their brand forward and it stinks!!!
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                    • #11
                      I'm not a defender of Spektrum having moved all my heli's over to Futaba FASST and working my way through my plank fleet but the issues with DSM2 have only happened at the massive fly-ins in the US, SEFF, IRCHA et al. At these events you can get up to 1000 pilots registered and previously, no transmitter control on 2.4ghz radios. At SEFF they have taken the step this year of asking flyers to only switch their radios on when waiting in the pilot box to take off as they did have problems with DSM2 systems last year with a number of crashes.

                      In the UK there aren't any events that come remotely near these numbers so DSM2 is fine in the UK. I also feel that Futaba's (actually Hobbico, the US agents) ads are pretty poor and are generally considered to be a pretty low blow in the UK but the main point is it's the US agent, Hobbico, that's producing these videos, not Futaba and they won't affect my decision to stick with Futaba FASST. Regarding cost, Futaba gear is definitely dearer but there are available full-range FASST compatible receivers available that have been independently tested to be almost indistinguishable in use from Futaba's own high speed receivers at around the £30 mark.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by horsham rc View Post
                        So are you saying spectrum is a club radio not for the big meets?
                        That is what spektrum is saying actually, and your idea of a "big meet" is probably not the same as theirs, eg IRCHA etc in the US.

                        What accounts for a big meet over here is probably equal to some clubs in the US.
                        Last edited by Rotorhead; 17-02-2011, 12:44 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Embarrassing...
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                          • #14
                            Tongue in cheek or not, it's a pathetic attempt at marketing, and surely does more harm than good for their brand.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jamiem View Post
                              Tongue in cheek or not, it's a pathetic attempt at marketing, and surely does more harm than good for their brand.
                              But the point has been raised that it isnt Futaba that is doing it, if anything then Futaba should stomp on them for bringing their name into disrepute, perhaps they will.
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